Builds R²M 2013 GX 460 Overland Build (2 Viewers)

[r2m]

I've thought about the Red Neck way with a stick, or similar, but... it is a Lexus. Maybe a stick with a lot of bling on it.
Rednexus, that's not a bad idea. I'd need to locate a switch in the cab somewhere if I use a solenoid or for a cable if I go mechanical.
I was thinking something more on the line of connecting to the throttle body linkage, but have to be very careful about that.

 

[Rednexus]

The throttle body is fully electronic, so it does not have a linkage unfortunately.

 

[Cold Iron]

I've thought about the Red Neck way with a stick, or similar, but... it is a Lexus. Maybe a stick with a lot of bling on it.
Rednexus, that's not a bad idea. I'd need to locate a switch in the cab somewhere if I use a solenoid or for a cable if I go mechanical.
I was thinking something more on the line of connecting to the throttle body linkage, but have to be very careful about that.

There was a time that vehicles came like that including my FJ55. Manual chokes had their place and usefulness beyond just starting up.

 

[r2m]

One of my rear Icon shocks is starting to leak.
This will be the third shock I'll had to rebuild in five years at about $750 per shock.
Any suggestions on a performance shock for 3.5" lift, Icon UCA's on a very heavy overlander, that WILL NOT NEED REBUILDING EVERY OTHER YEAR???

 

[Hiluxforever]

I have heard really good things about Elkas in that class of dampers.

 

[GrizzlyClint]

One of my rear Icon shocks is starting to leak.
This will be the third shock I'll had to rebuild in five years at about $750 per shock.
Any suggestions on a performance shock for 3.5" lift, Icon UCA's on a very heavy overlander, that WILL NOT NEED REBUILDING EVERY OTHER YEAR???

This is why I'm not getting non-OEM suspension. I just cannot stomach what you're describing.

I don't need a lift with what I need.

 

[Rednexus]

One of my rear Icon shocks is starting to leak.
This will be the third shock I'll had to rebuild in five years at about $750 per shock.
Any suggestions on a performance shock for 3.5" lift, Icon UCA's on a very heavy overlander, that WILL NOT NEED REBUILDING EVERY OTHER YEAR???

Ironman Foam Cell Pros. Mine are at over 3 years now and about 42K and function just as good as Day 1. The kit had some teething issues (UCA recall) but the shocks themselves are very, very solid. When the do need to be rebuilt they can be rebuilt at home as they aren't a pessurized shock.

FWIW, I do think Icons ride better, but there is NFW I want to pull shocks and send them out for a rebuild every couple of years.

 

[Hiluxforever]

This is why I'm not getting non-OEM suspension. I just cannot stomach what you're describing.

I don't need a lift with what I need.

That's why I have 5100s. Rubber bushings and an otherwise "non-exotic" 2 inch single tube design is very reliable while being a solid upgrade over oem for my application.

Those Icons are yester-years class 8 race shocks, from my perspective. Those were designed to be rebuilt in the off season. I know they are more reliable than that now, other than sway-a-way. Which is a huge bummer.

 

[CaptRussia253]

One of my rear Icon shocks is starting to leak.
This will be the third shock I'll had to rebuild in five years at about $750 per shock.
Any suggestions on a performance shock for 3.5" lift, Icon UCA's on a very heavy overlander, that WILL NOT NEED REBUILDING EVERY OTHER YEAR???

Man that’s a lot of money to throw in a rebuild since new are so damn expensive. This is why I’m a huge fan of OME or Dobinsons basic shock and coil. No rebuild and will easily last 100k miles. Do they ride better? No. But they sure do outlast coilovers. With that said, I really want some kings for the Tundra

 

[Banandalorian]

My Dobinson MRAs are going strong after almost 2 years of daily driving and a bunch of off roading trips. I expect to get at least 30k before a rebuild and am hoping for 50k+. We don't really have high speed off road stuff on the east coast but they get their fair share of quick gravel roads and passing right over speed bumps because I think it's funny.

FWIW it seems like Icon really leads the way in abysmal service intervals. I think the other high end stuff all has pretty good mixed use service life these days. It's like Icons need a rebuild before 10k no matter what and everything else only needs that if you are always playing trophy truck.

 

[GrizzlyClint]

That's why I have 5100s. Rubber bushings and an otherwise "non-exotic" 2 inch single tube design is very reliable while being a solid upgrade over oem for my application.

Those Icons are yester-years class 8 race shocks, from my perspective. Those were designed to be rebuilt in the off season. I know they are more reliable than that now, other than sway-a-way. Which is a huge bummer.

What sort of maintenance cost to those Bilsteins have?

 

[Hiluxforever]

What sort of maintenance cost to those Bilsteins have?

They are a sealed unit. No maintenance, and uses rubber bushings. I got them on sale for 529 per set. Both trucks have them. Also really helped with controlling braking dive and getting the most out of the EBC brake pads.

 

[GrizzlyClint]

They are a sealed unit. No maintenance, and uses rubber bushings. I got them on sale for 529 per set. Both trucks have them. Also really helped with controlling braking dive and getting the most out of the EBC brake pads.

Good to know thanks!

 

[PoindAxster]

Although I don’t know a lot about this company, I like the idea of working with them to design the right shock for your rig. Triple Locked Adventure’s (you can tell he is a bit excited in the video) gets into Ride Shocks in a little more depth here:

If you look into them, I’m curious to hear your experience. This is a route I’m considering down the road.

 

[JDUB fab]

I’m a fan of my radflos but I can’t speak to their longevity yet. I will say most high end rebuildable shocks do need maintenance every few years.

 

[Arailt]

Ironman Foam Cell Pros.

This is why I’m a huge fan of OME or Dobinsons basic shock and coil.

That's why I have 5100s.

Hell yes. I had 5100s and OME springs on my Tacoma for 4-5 years. Zero problems. Great shocks. Huge upgrade from factory Bilsteins. Any one of these sealed units will last a long time, similar to OEM.

 

[xychromosome]

+1 for basic shocks. My 'el cheapo' ironman nitros are still going strong after 50k miles.

 

[Rednexus]

I think there is a difference between the cheap-cheap shocks and the solid midrange offerings. Wheeling with my buddy's JK who had cheapo Rough Country shocks, the Ironman FCPs were drastically superior. If I were to get shocks again I'd probably consider Dobinsons MRRs.

You will miss some of the Icon cushiness going back to something cheaper, but it's probably worth it. My buddy's 1st gen Tundra on basic Icon 2.0 non-remote shocks does ride better than my FCP shocks, but the FCPs are way beefier and I'm confident they'll go 2-3X as long between rebuilds.

 

[r2m]

I was talking with Off Road Warehouse yesterday about shock options that'll last 50-60k miles. Most all sealed shocks (non-rebuildable) will not get me 3.5" lift which I need for my tires size and the type of wheeling I do. They also noted that I may not get the same ride quality as the Icon's.
After spending a bit of time looking over options he came up with these:

• Rear: 4RUNNER PRO-TRUCK RESERVOIR DRIVER SIDE - https://eibach.com/product/E60-82-071-03-01?epsid=2285
• Front: GX470 PRO TRUCK COILOVER 2.0 - https://eibach.com/product/E86-59-005-01-20?epsid=2285

He said that these should be good for 50-80k miles with a >3.5" lift. I can live with that!
But I have no idea what their ride is like. I know Eibach is a trusted name in suspension, but I know them more for street suspension not off road.
As far as ride quality, the Icon's have been great, but as mentioned above, the rebuilds every couple years is killing me.

 

[r2m]

I think there is a difference between the cheap-cheap shocks and the solid midrange offerings. Wheeling with my buddy's JK who had cheapo Rough Country shocks, the Ironman FCPs were drastically superior. If I were to get shocks again I'd probably consider Dobinsons MRRs.

You will miss some of the Icon cushiness going back to something cheaper, but it's probably worth it. My buddy's 1st gen Tundra on basic Icon 2.0 non-remote shocks does ride better than my FCP shocks, but the FCPs are way beefier and I'm confident they'll go 2-3X as long between rebuilds.

Just looking online at the Ironman FCP's, they're pretty pricey compared to the Eibach's, but again, in the long run compared to rebuilding every couple years, I'm sure they're cheaper than what I currently have.

+1 for basic shocks. My 'el cheapo' ironman nitros are still going strong after 50k miles.

Won't work for +3.5" suspension, the weight of my rig and tire size. Plus I really want to still keep the ride quality, after all we enjoy our road trips too.