Question on timing 1fz (3 Viewers)

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Timing gear *at crank* has 20 teeth....so 18° per tooth.
That equals 9° of cam timing. Looks like this is a possibility since it appears he is about 12°.

This may be bigger than you hoped for........
 
That equals 9° of cam timing. Looks like this is a possibility since it appears he is about 12°.

This may be bigger than you hoped for........

Correct. Crank timing 18°......Cam timing {1/2 crankshaft speed} 9°
 
I'm hanging up my hat on this one. Its worse now.

I set the cams at 0TDC. I did what was suggested and used a paint pen to make a new mark on the HB. I tried setting the diz in that position and it was still either at near 12 o'clock or like 10-1030 o'clock like in the pictures I originally posted. I also replaced the spark plugs and rotor since I had the valve cover off.

I tried running it in both positions and it ran like crap.

I set it all back to how it was when I bought it and set the timing to 0TDC. It runs and idles fine but now I have an issue when I'm accelerating that it just cuts out. It almost sounds like the engine has completely shut off. The revs drop all the way down and the engine stops making noise but if you let off the gas and then go back on it it picks right back up like nothing happened. The check engine light comes on to when this happens but goes off as soon as you let off the gas and then go back on the gas.

I think I am just going to take it to a shop and let them figure it out. I got to many other projects on my 92 that this has put me behind on. Unless I get the 92 finished before I can get an appointment at a shop I'm done messing with this and just want it fixed.

Either way I will update this post with what was wrong rather I fix it or a shop does. I am leaning towards HB though.
 
I'm hanging up my hat on this one. Its worse now.

I set the cams at 0TDC. I did what was suggested and used a paint pen to make a new mark on the HB. I tried setting the diz in that position and it was still either at near 12 o'clock or like 10-1030 o'clock like in the pictures I originally posted. I also replaced the spark plugs and rotor since I had the valve cover off.

I tried running it in both positions and it ran like crap.

I set it all back to how it was when I bought it and set the timing to 0TDC. It runs and idles fine but now I have an issue when I'm accelerating that it just cuts out. It almost sounds like the engine has completely shut off. The revs drop all the way down and the engine stops making noise but if you let off the gas and then go back on it it picks right back up like nothing happened. The check engine light comes on to when this happens but goes off as soon as you let off the gas and then go back on the gas.

I think I am just going to take it to a shop and let them figure it out. I got to many other projects on my 92 that this has put me behind on. Unless I get the 92 finished before I can get an appointment at a shop I'm done messing with this and just want it fixed.

Either way I will update this post with what was wrong rather I fix it or a shop does. I am leaning towards HB though.
Sorry to hear your frustrations. Maybe some time away will help you reattack with a clear head.
 
Your cams are not aligned with TDC. Pull the cams IAW the FSM and get the marks perfectly level across the top of the head. Before reinstalling the valve cover, insert the distributor and verify the dizzy’s timing marks are correct then install the valve cover. If this does not fix your issue, it’s most definitely the HB.

Without a doubt based on your camshaft picture your cams are not aligned properly.
 
I'm hanging up my hat on this one. Its worse now.

I set the cams at 0TDC. I did what was suggested and used a paint pen to make a new mark on the HB. I tried setting the diz in that position and it was still either at near 12 o'clock or like 10-1030 o'clock like in the pictures I originally posted. I also replaced the spark plugs and rotor since I had the valve cover off.

I tried running it in both positions and it ran like crap.

I set it all back to how it was when I bought it and set the timing to 0TDC. It runs and idles fine but now I have an issue when I'm accelerating that it just cuts out. It almost sounds like the engine has completely shut off. The revs drop all the way down and the engine stops making noise but if you let off the gas and then go back on it it picks right back up like nothing happened. The check engine light comes on to when this happens but goes off as soon as you let off the gas and then go back on the gas.

I think I am just going to take it to a shop and let them figure it out. I got to many other projects on my 92 that this has put me behind on. Unless I get the 92 finished before I can get an appointment at a shop I'm done messing with this and just want it fixed.

Either way I will update this post with what was wrong rather I fix it or a shop does. I am leaning towards HB though.


What did you end up finding as the problem?
 
What did you end up finding as the problem?
Pulled the engine out for a rebuild. Only thing I found was the timing chain was installed wrong, the black links were not lined up with the dots on the sprocket.

Haven't finished putting it all back together yet, so don't know if that will be the fix or not.
 

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