PTO Winch Information

[youngmanchego]

Referring back to the OP, the #395 u-joints are the smaller ones for later model winch arrangements, correct?


Is your winch single direction or double direction ?

Ever find the part number for the earlier model winch drive shaft? I can't find the replacement part for the part number 37411 35010 which is the original ujoint/spider

 

[73FJ40]

Ever find the part number for the earlier model winch drive shaft? I can't find the replacement part for the part number 37411 35010 which is the original ujoint/spider

I have looked all over, and have yet to find an interchange for the early (larger) spider.

 

[renago]

There is no replacement for the spider joints .
I have replaced them with standard spider joints , cutting and welding the shaft .

 

[GILBERTH]

Just got my PTO WINCH and i need to service it, spending the last hour learning about it in this thread, cheers

 

[J40Fan]

Try this link -

 

[GILBERTH]

Try this link -

Thank you

 

[John Young]

Try this link -

Looks almost 19th century. Or maybe off a 1920s fishing boat. My 70 series PTO winch is much more 1950s. Of course the shafting is hosed but I am working on restoring a South Bent lathe to remake them. I'm not denegrating your PTO.

 

[GILBERTH]

Any ideas on how to remove the seal?

 

[youngmanchego]

Any ideas on how to remove the seal?

I pried it out with a flathead screwdriver. It will destroy the seal, but OEM replacements are available. Whatever you pivot the shaft of the screwdriver on you should probably pad or you might mar that metal plate. There may be a more professional way, I just don’t know it

 

[GILBERTH]

I pried it out with a flathead screwdriver. It will destroy the seal, but OEM replacements are available. Whatever you pivot the shaft of the screwdriver on you should probably pad or you might mar that metal plate. There may be a more professional way, I just don’t know it

Thank you sir

 

[GILBERTH]

Any idea on the spec of bolt needed on the pivot

 

[GILBERTH]

It is now up and running any idea on the cable?

 

[youngmanchego]

It is now up and running any idea on the cable?

You’ll find a million opinions on that one. I’m debating myself. From what I’ve read (you should definitely do some of your own homework) i think synth is probably the safest, most reliable, and low maintenance option. And I’m partial to the old-meets-new thing

 

[renago]

I maybe throwing a spanner into the gears here !
Are you thinking to use the winch very often ?
Steel cable If properly oiled will last a very long time ,still look good and do the job .
Synthetic rope, is far more friendly to use , safer,lighter,but will degrade from light AND heat.in a few years you will have a weaker rope !
Just to keep it in mind !

 

[youngmanchego]

I maybe throwing a spanner into the gears here !
Are you thinking to use the winch very often ?
Steel cable If properly oiled will last a very long time ,still look good and do the job .
Synthetic rope, is far more friendly to use , safer,lighter,but will degrade from light AND heat.in a few years you will have a weaker rope !
Just to keep it in mind !

Excellent caveats !

 

[renago]

Don’t ask me why I have put forward these comments !
Under the black cover is a mechanical winch with steel cable .
In 5 years only used once

 

[Eurasiaoverland]

Any ideas on how to remove the seal?View attachment 3823707

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I welded two threaded studs to the race then used a puller to pull it out.

 

[youngmanchego]

I welded two threaded studs to the race then used a puller to pull it out.

I second using shrinkage from welding to get the races out if that’s the next step. Works like a charm.

Edit: Eurasia didn’t use shrinkage *face palm*

 

[island45]

PTO Gearcase Repair:
Today I was working on my Warn M12000 and having a good time in my warm shop and decided I might have to repair my broken PTO gearcase in the same manner as I did this one a few years back. When I came upon this current thread gathering info for these winches, I did not see any mention of the common problem of a broken mounting foot. In this thread I was shown a very effective repair process. This new foot (actually both feet) were attached so well (using pinhead's repair suggestion) that I broke my cable one day when I drove away with the dog engaged with no damage to the new mounting feet.. This episode lead to another post a week later in which I came up with a winch saver.

PTO winch gearcase

Unfortunately I find myself in need of a new gear housing for my factory pto winch. Both front and rear mounts have been busted off. one is missing and one is welded back on very poorly. . I have been trying the vendors. No luck so far, but I have located a used pto gear for my later xfer case...

forum.ih8mud.com

Here's my reinforcement brackets I came up with after the near miss with the engaged dog clutch. I eventually sold the 45 with that winch to a man in Olympia who sold it shortly after. I still wonder about it's whereabouts. Strangely, my first 45 ended up with mud member landpimp near that same location, but I think he still has it. Ok, back to my reinforcement plates, but no welds like Braden 625's. Here's the link.

If it ain't broke, reinforce it

Last week when I did the thread about repairing my pto winch gearcase, I noticed a lot of people have the same problem with a broken housing. I decided to reinforce my repair with a fairly simple set of tabs coming off the pinion gear plates.. the bolts are in a good place to tie into to...

forum.ih8mud.com

 

[Eurasiaoverland]

I'm sure it helped, as it came out pretty easily. But as I had a puller which slotted onto the studs I felt it was better to pull it out cleanly rather than pry against the retainer plate.