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Extremely Easy Intake Cleanup After Catchcan Install

Fellas, I debated whether I should start a separate thread on this but yesterday I started a small tune procedure that I do before spark plug replacement. It has been 20K miles since my PM HG job from the master and as such two spark plug swaps (Safari recommends 10K interval). At 10K my intake was still so clean I did not do this tune procedure that I "always" do anyways ... I simply spray some BG Air Intake Spray (1/2 can in small increments) through the throttle body and into the intake plenums and then spray some more through the PCV hose inlet. I have always done this mostly to clean the throttle body and not so much to clean the intakes because as mentioned above in all the other posts our intakes get so frickin filthy that the BG spray simply makes a minor dent in all the crap collected past the throttle body where more heat helps to make the crap collected much more stubborn.

After the catchcan install and after approximately 20K miles since the HG job where plenums were totally cleaned throughout I noticed some "soot" collected on the backside of the throttle plate and all through the intake plenums (flexible light scope helps here). It was not enough to even buildup much more than dust on a shelf after a month or more but it was enough to see. I noticed that unlike the previous crap collected in the intake system prior to the catchcan installs I could easily "erase" the soot simply by wiping my finger over the backside of the throttle plate so I decided to do the BG treatment of old and see how that helped. To summarize, I was absolutely astonished by how rapidly and how completely it came off, all of it, after only two tiny squirts of the BG spray through the throttle body and two tiny squirts of the BG spray through the PCV hose inlet which was probably pretty unneccessary anyway at that point.

My theory is that without the oily "glue" that comes from the crap that the PCV system throws through the intake system, the EGR soot alone simply cannot collect much and simply cannot cope with any solvent spray whatsoever. Heck, I'd venture a guess that even water injection would completely clean the intake system's innards. It is an amazing difference due to the catchcans that I thought I'd pass along as hopefully helpful to others. :cheers:
 
TURBO that is awesome to hear. This mod has been on top of my list but there are too many loose ends right now that I need to tie up. So looking forward to doing this. Plus its not too terribly $$ considering what you get out of it.
 
TURBO that is awesome to hear. This mod has been on top of my list but there are too many loose ends right now that I need to tie up. So looking forward to doing this. Plus its not too terribly $$ considering what you get out of it.

Thanks man, with my oil changes at 3K I get a good 3 to 6 tablespoons of oil out of those two cans and the one oil change at 5K I got even more. So over the course of the last 20K miles and the six or so oil changes I've done in that time the catchcans have prevented probably a cup worth of old oil and carbon and crap from gumming up the works. The EGR's contribution is minimal and more importantly it is extremely dry and dusty and comes off so super easily. Additionally my hoses into and out of the intercooler are still spotless after 20K so I have some higher efficiency from the IC as well and no need to remove it and clean it constantly. Thanks again. :cheers:
 
great follow-up Turbo!

This bumps this mod up a bit on the list. I was kind of waiting to do the HG and this at the same time.
 
great follow-up Turbo!

This bumps this mod up a bit on the list. I was kind of waiting to do the HG and this at the same time.

Thanks! Although it will help whenever you add it, adding it at the time of HG replacement makes perfect sense; that way you can solvent soak the intake plenums and get them good and clean. I am incredibly happy with how this mod has helped maintain my rig. :cheers:
 
TurboCruiser, so what is the cost of one of them doodads anyhow? I don't want to bother the guys if it is too steep. At least not until I go forced air... Which should be some time Jan. '09 But I am centennially doing all of my homework before I jump in and this makes good sense.

Dave
 
TurboCruiser, so what is the cost of one of them doodads anyhow? I don't want to bother the guys if it is too steep. At least not until I go forced air... Which should be some time Jan. '09 But I am centennially doing all of my homework before I jump in and this makes good sense.

Dave

I think that they were around $120 each when I was ordering them. I might have gotten a group discount from ordering two of them!?! :D BTW, the amount of crap collected on the turbo side is an incredibly small fraction of what is collected on the PCV side so don't wait for FI to do this mod. HTH. :cheers:
 
I think that they were around $120 each when I was ordering them. I might have gotten a group discount from ordering two of them!?! :D BTW, the amount of **** collected on the turbo side is an incredibly small fraction of what is collected on the PCV side so don't wait for FI to do this mod. HTH. :cheers:


Thanks for the info! Yeah, that is not too bad price wise. I think I'll get on that one. As other posters pointed out, I have seen these on airplane engines for years. I don't think it can hurt. Because, I know when I recently changed my spark plugs, wires, PCV, hose, and grommet. The intake on the throttle body was really gunked up. Thanks again!

Dave
 
So did I miss out on the group buy?

sorry for bringing back this awsome thread!
 
Reviving an old thread. Any new updates on this AWM PCV catch cans? How is the long term progress?

Accurate Machine Works
Engine PCV Oil Catch Can , Universal PCV Catch Can - HaneyMotorSport

For a superchargerd application, are 2 cans necessary like the turbo or is just the one inline between the PCV and upper intake plenum sufficient?

Also, have any of you installed the check valve as mentioned in AWM's instruction sheet?
"Note: If running a forced induction vehicle, a check valve should be used in-line to prevent undesired pressure from entering catch can. Check valve should be placed between vacuum source and catch can. "
http://www.accmachtech.com/PCVCatchCanInstallationInstructions.pdf
 
I've had my catch can since late 2007. It's pretty much like turbocruiser reported in post #141 above: there is very little stuff that builds up in the intake chamber now and what is there is just black powder that is easily cleaned away with throttle body cleaner. Every oil change I use a turkey baster to suck the oil out of the can. I usually get ~1.5 "baster fulls" (scientific term) of oil. That that's much less oil getting pumped into the air intake. I've got a normally aspirated engine and so can't comment on the question about supercharged applications. I mounted mine very similar to what JerseyCruiser did (post #132), except I used machine bolts all the way through the aluminum block to the charcoal canister bracket (required careful compound angle setup in my drill press). I did not install a check valve. I recommend this mod to all.

I wish I knew how much positive impact this mod has on hydrocarbon emissions. You're burning less oil, so it's got to be measurable. I just don't know quantitatively what it is.
 
Thanks for your responce Tricky T.

Maybe someone else can chime in on the recommended check valve for non-normaly aspirated vehicles...

And if I should put one in the breather hose between the valve cover and throttle body in addition to the PCV to upper intake line.
 
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Seems like this is a good mod. Might as well add this to the list.
 
I baught Tarbe's rig in 06 with the Greddy in place. I can't tell you how many nasty turkey basters full of gunk I've suck out of there over this time. No matter what you get, get one.

I tank dipped the intakes when I did the hg. They were nasty. Since then, the intake and throttle body stay very clean. Some easy to clean residue, kinda like dust but that's it.

Buck
 
I have all the parts to do this but STILL haven't found the time to just actually install it. Ugh. Depressing
 

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