Pig Conditioning part 2 (1 Viewer)

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Today we discuss the most tedious part of the Vintage Air swap. The firewall penetrations.
1. First step is to,sadly, remove the stock heater motor housing. I'm not going to describe how to remove it, other than it has a couple semi-hard-to-find bolts which come in thru the underdash area. Oh yes, you need to remove the glove box to gain access for pretty much everything. Turn out the glove box is very easily removed, just the little bolts you see inside it when you open it up.
2. Apparently VA has some generic firewall blankoffs you can buy. Because I refuse to do anything the easy way (and I didn't know they had them) I made my own out of sheet metal. I used the previously (sadly) removed fan box as a template. The opening is not square, it has a whoop in it. So I would imagine the VA ones would need to be modified anyway. I dunno. The first pic below shows the plate installed (with the two AC penetrations already in. I guess I didn't take any pics of it in its virgin state...). The kit comes with these special firewall AC fittings. They prevent running a rubber hose thru and having to use a grommet. The pic also shows the location I chose for the dryer. It also shows the two heater core tubes sticking thru.
3. Second pic basically shows my finished product. It's a very busy corner after this installation. The large wire loom will not be an issue for most people, it is the harness going inside to the TBI computer. There will be a wire loom going thru however, is shown right above the large loom. There is just a lot of fiddling, bending, testing, rebending, more fiddling etc until you get the liquid lines to be how you want.
4. Getting the liquid lines right: As I mentioned, it a lot of trial and error. The kit comes with more than enough line, so don't try to get too perfect the first cut. Make them a little too long and just trim them back until they fit. NOTE: the fittings which come with the kit have to be crimped on once you get them all properly pondered and positioned. Straight fittings don't matter how you position them prior to crimping. But any kind of curved fitting (the majority of them) must be marked when everything is fitting well so they are crimped at the right angle. I marked each fitting-to-hose connection with a sharpie and made two marks on each one. That gave the AC shop a dual reference point prior to crimping. This is one of the most important ways to prevent swearing, breaking things, cursing your mother, kicking the dog or other things...if the fittings aren't crimped at the right angle you will hate it.
5. In the second pic, the hinky looking grey sheet metal thing is the mount for the VA hot water valve. The thing is ridiculous looking and offers no obvious way to bolt it to anything. So now it's hidden and supported properly. I may make a less amateur looking mount later...or not.
6. Third pic show the underdash orientation of the thicker hose, threaded on to the firewall fitting and to the connection on the evaporator. This is a stubby line, so, again, get the angled fittings crimped correctly or be sad.
7. Last pic is a little hard to understand, but shows the smaller under dash liquid line threaded on to the firewall fitting, curving about 180 degrees and attaching to the evap smaller fitting. It is in annoying proximity to the heater tubes, but I was able to convince them all to cohabitate. This evap connection was a pain to get started by hand, but you do not want to put a wrench on it until you are positive it is hand started.
8. NOTES: The heater tubes which come with the kit are straight. They both need to be 90 degrees. So I had to buy those. I suppose you may be able to buy them instead of the straight ones, but I'm not sure how VA handles that. There are a couple other fittings which have to be purchased to replace the ones in the kit. I'll get to those in the last chapter of the installation under the irritations and weirdnesses article.


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Why did you piece this system together versus just getting the entire system from Vintage Air? I’m sure you mentioned this. Curious.
Reviving this thread because of VA questions posted today. I guess I missed this last post a couple years ago. Simply VA does not offer a FJ55 specific kit, so I had to piece it together. VA helped me based on a couple ix I took of a VA kitted 55 that was on ebay.
 
@Hobbs81 How's the VA system now that you've had it for awhile? I saw the condenser part number you posted, but what did VA recommend for the evaporator and inside vent configuration?
 
@Hobbs81 How's the VA system now that you've had it for awhile? I saw the condenser part number you posted, but what did VA recommend for the evaporator and inside vent configuration?
It works great, kinda looks factory. I’d have to search around for the evaporator p/n, but I basically showed a picture of another Pig with a VA kit in it to a VA sales guy and he figured out the PNs. Mine is all torn out right now cuz I’m doing the restomod on the Pig.

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If you order stuff go with the reduced barrier hoses. They are slightly more $. I had no clue and went with regular hoses. Reduced barrier hoses are narrower and look better. Prolly easier to route them too
Do they have the same thermal efficiency?
 
You gonna post up some part numbers or is it an easy order?
 
You gonna post up some part numbers or is it an easy order?
I think I posted them on the first edition of this thread (part 1). I’m at work can’t really look right now. I’ll look . The only one to be careful with is the condenser. The one I used is the largest possible. I bought one size bigger and it didn’t fit. I think that’s on that thread too…
 
Part of my first thread about VA Air. If I had any kind of attention span this article would be complete.

The condenser I used was a Vintage Air VTA-03261-VUC. It's dimensions are 20Wx14H. ($150.48) The one I brilliantly figured i could make fit was 19x17. It would yield more surface area, but no joy. It's too tall. (I do have to fess up that because I live in Reno, Summit Racing's showroom is here. They pretty much always have everything in stock, and it's super easy to return stuff, even opened. That doesn't suck.)
2. My Pig had no holes for the liquid lines to go thru. Seems odd they wouldn't just stamp them in all of the bodies, but they didn't. I suppose there is a chance the stock Toyota holes will work for the VA unit, but you would have to be living right I think. (Maybe if it was a dealer installed option the dealers drilled the holes? Anyway I used a 1 1/4" hole saw.)
3. Where is the Pig run? The 18th of June? Don't you guys have jobs? :rofl:
4. 65 is too hot for me without AC. I'm old and fat, always hot. I suppose when I'm older I'll always be cold, but the VA has a heater too.
5. More pig pix coming! I took it to a local car show yesterday. Plenty of attention, but no ribbon. Heathens!
 
Part of my first thread about VA Air. If I had any kind of attention span this article would be complete.

The condenser I used was a Vintage Air VTA-03261-VUC. It's dimensions are 20Wx14H. ($150.48) The one I brilliantly figured i could make fit was 19x17. It would yield more surface area, but no joy. It's too tall. (I do have to fess up that because I live in Reno, Summit Racing's showroom is here. They pretty much always have everything in stock, and it's super easy to return stuff, even opened. That doesn't suck.)
2. My Pig had no holes for the liquid lines to go thru. Seems odd they wouldn't just stamp them in all of the bodies, but they didn't. I suppose there is a chance the stock Toyota holes will work for the VA unit, but you would have to be living right I think. (Maybe if it was a dealer installed option the dealers drilled the holes? Anyway I used a 1 1/4" hole saw.)
3. Where is the Pig run? The 18th of June? Don't you guys have jobs? :rofl:
4. 65 is too hot for me without AC. I'm old and fat, always hot. I suppose when I'm older I'll always be cold, but the VA has a heater too.
5. More pig pix coming! I took it to a local car show yesterday. Plenty of attention, but no ribbon. Heathens!
Do you have any pictures of the condenser in the radiator opening?
 

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