what about the right to face your accuser?
Photoradar tickets to be reported to MVD... watch ur rates go up
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I have a friend who has had like 5 of these but he just keeps his truck was originally in his dads name now its in his and his wife drives it. The other couple were in a company truck and he just tells them it was a laborer every time. The problem with these tickets is they don't help for one and my big beef is a company in Australia essentially gets to tax Americans. I don't know about you but If I was driving down the street and an Australian in a mini van tried to pull me over and give me a ticket then proceed to tell me he will send most of my cash back to his bank account in Australia and the rest paying off the city just enough to keep them happy I'd be pretty pissed. They can catch people speeding with cameras and spend hours looking over the photos but Ive never gotten any of my stolen stereos, power tools, ladders, work equipment back, not to mention Phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the country.... simply amazing. n I don't even like doing work in parts of phoenix if your equipment is not chained down it will leave in broad daylight.
Actually I heard the cameras may get the axe in the new state budget. Looks to be in some of the DPS funding cuts.
Probably why you dont see them in Cali.
Probably why you dont see them in Cali.
I speed only when its reasonable and prudent, something the cameras cant judge
I would think the net income difference between the costs of the contract vs money taken in would be substantial. Dont knpw the numbers but dont think they will cancel them (I hope they do though) for budget reasons?
Everyone Should drive around with a mask in the image of someone they don't like on until they realize taking someones picture of someone speeding is not a very intelligent way of enforcing the law. Isn't it about 20% percent of radar tickets are issued in error? Not to mention you could get quite a few tickets before ever getting one in the mail and its not going to actually slow you down if you don't even know you did something wrong. Whatever though someday people will wakeup and smell the huge dump these clowns are taking all over their faces. I sometimes wonder where all the money goes it makes me cringe to think just what I spent on sales tax for jobs last year do they really need more. Arizona Legislature Prepares to Defend Photo Radar this story is especially twisted the politicians get money from the tickets I didn't even know this.
I was wondering about this last Friday on my way into Phx. Roadside DPS Jeep....I'm going 65 in a 65 (center lane), another driver (silver Civic) in the left lane is coming up on me at I'd say about 70-73. FLASH! At the time of flash his front bumper was at my rear bumper so we were "tight" as far as camera angle goes.
HOW do they know for sure who was doing what speed when vehicles are that close?
Neither of us will get a ticket. The Civic wasn't doing 11-over.
I know on the permanent cams the sensors are in each lane. Not so on the mobile Jeeps.
Oh, and plus...both visors were down and hands blocking in between the visor and RV mirror.
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You don't have to be doing 11 over to get a ticket. If you're doing 1 over you can be issued a ticket. Hell you can be issued a ticket for doing the speed limit if an officer deems it not a reasonable and prudent speed. The cameras are typically set at 11 over to allow for a buffer but there is nothing saying that they must be and or that they cannot be set lower. There are so many holes in the Arizona laws that they can pretty much do whatever they like.
Not the case.
0-10 over = enforced only by a peace officer (finite resource violation)
11-criminal over = enforced by traffic cams or a peace officer
A traffic cam can send a warning-only from 1-10 over.
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Can't remember who i was discussing this with on Friday night but...
http://www.motorists.org/photoenforc...speed-cameras/
"The common advice to ignore mailed photo tickets, while technically legal, is at the root of many suspended licenses. The resulting deliveries from process servers land many accused speeders with a suspended license. If the process server hears or even smells human activity at the residence, he can attach the citation to the front door and move on to his next stop. If the drivers never actually see the ticket, their licenses will be suspended when they fail to show up in court."
"Process server Sheila Cahil says Arizona residents need to read the state law. "Every state has its own process serving laws. Some people have moved here from other states and think they have to be served in person or sign for it to be legal. That's never been the case in Arizona." "
"The server then submits a delivery affidavit to the court, even if the process server left the citation on the porch, with the landscaper or with a nine-year-old. A hearing date is then scheduled, and when the registered vehicle owners don't show, their licenses are suspended, even if they never knew of the citation and even if they weren't the actual the drivers."
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http://www.motorists.org/photoenforc...speed-cameras/
"The common advice to ignore mailed photo tickets, while technically legal, is at the root of many suspended licenses. The resulting deliveries from process servers land many accused speeders with a suspended license. If the process server hears or even smells human activity at the residence, he can attach the citation to the front door and move on to his next stop. If the drivers never actually see the ticket, their licenses will be suspended when they fail to show up in court."
"Process server Sheila Cahil says Arizona residents need to read the state law. "Every state has its own process serving laws. Some people have moved here from other states and think they have to be served in person or sign for it to be legal. That's never been the case in Arizona." "
"The server then submits a delivery affidavit to the court, even if the process server left the citation on the porch, with the landscaper or with a nine-year-old. A hearing date is then scheduled, and when the registered vehicle owners don't show, their licenses are suspended, even if they never knew of the citation and even if they weren't the actual the drivers."
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Oh, I understand all the BS that can come after one gets a ticket. That's why I don't speed. The deal is however that from 1-10 MPH above the traffic cams cannot enforce due to AZ law. Don't know about other states.
Not handy. It's been all over the radio in Tucson recently because they've just added a bunch. Passing through Phx I've heard the same things on AM-550.
The radio's also where I heard the dude got his suspended because a traffic cam cannot issue a criminal ticket...only a peace officer can and therefore it was suspended.
The best analogy I've heard about the photo radar tickets is that it's similar to a parking ticket. It does not have to be served, but it must be issued. If you go forth and say it's not your in the photo then you must either A) state who is B) not state who it is, in which you must eat the ticket C) not state who it is and obstruct justice which you will than eat the ticket plus any other fines.