I have a 2005 LJ (long wheel base TJ) Rubicon, has D44 axles front and rear with factory air lockers. I agree with what has been said, but it is all relative as well..... my wife, 100 lb. Akita (dog), and I did a road trip/off road camping trip from Virginia to Colorado this past summer. On the road is not nearly as comfortable as our friends new 4R TRD Pro but I also am not $50k in debt and having to pay the personal property tax.... I have a bowless soft top that is pretty quiet, the carpet is still in, and I have hard doors. The road noise is tolerable, the AC is a little lacking (open windows exponentially increase road/wind noise and cause fatigue much more quickly). Off road (mild - moderate trails with rock, mud, tight twists, typical mountain stuff) my LJ did much better than the 4R, mostly due to the 4:1 low range in the T-case, the 6 speed manual with 4.52 (or so) first gear..... and you can not take the top and doors off of a 4R (at least not easily and still put them back on.....;p ) All in all, I like my Jeep better than my friends very nice 4R......