ONSC Chat (31 Viewers)

[tgadd]

Well the use of electricity per household would vary.

Also it isn't 60k added onto the cost of a new roof. That price that i've seen quoted is cost of it total when you don't need a new roof. If you do need a new roof you would subtract the cost of the new roof since you are going to have to spend that money anyway on a new roof.

But add in the tax credits that will come in (and all things point to those getting bigger each year), the fact that solar adds quite a bit of value to the house, and just the fact that at this point in human development we need to cut pollution as much as possible it would make sense.

Problem is the average person doesn't have even 5k to spend on a new roof these days.

I agree with you on the last points. Just throwing out the numbers I have read one analyst say. And yes there will be tax credits and increase in value, etc. However it still is a huge additional expense upfront. One most people would only undertake by pulling out equity or construction/refinance or new build.

And sorry, you are correct it's not $60,000 extra. According to their math, it is just $53,500 extra

Here's How Much Tesla's New Solar Roof Could Cost

We've run some numbers and determined that a textured glass tile Solar Roof should cost no more than $73,500, installed, to be competitive with an asphalt roof.

How We Did the Math
To get there, we pulled together ballpark pricing for the various roofing materials Tesla’s solar shingles mimic, from sources like the Slate Roofing Contractors Association, the Tile Roofing Institute, and the Remodeling 2016 Cost vs. Value Report.

There are plenty of variables, of course, including the location of the home and shape and height of the roof. (And we’re leaving out any consideration of solar rebates and incentives.) But here’s what the installed costs look like for the roughly 3,000 square feet of roofing needed to cover an average size home in the U.S.

Clay Tile: $16,000
Asphalt: $20,000
Slate: $45,000

So how could a $73,500 roof be considered cost-competitive with a $20,000 asphalt roof? To compensate for the proposed added value of the “free” electricity from Tesla’s roof, we added in $2,000 a year, over the lifespan of the roof. That’s a typical electric bill in states where solar is big, like California, Texas, and North Carolina.

Tesla says the life expectancy of its tiles will be 30 years. So that adds $60,000 to the value of the roof. (Our rough estimate assumes our hypothetical Solar Roof homes generate exactly as much electricity as they use.)

 

[uzj100]

Another thought is NEVER going to a gas station again if you also have an electric car. That would be big.

20 gallon tank x 15 mpg = 300 mile range

12000 miles per year / 300 = 40 trips per year or 3.33 trips per month

"No more having to touch that dirty gas pump with their manucured hands..." ;<)

 

[lt1fire]

yeah you ain't kidding.

If i was in the market for a new "commuter" car instead of used one. I'd really consider a Chevy Bolt... .240 mile range is good enough for any daily commute. If I was a little richer i'd consider a Tesla also.

 

[lt1fire]

I agree with you on the last points. Just throwing out the numbers I have read one analyst say. And yes there will be tax credits and increase in value, etc. However it still is a huge additional expense upfront. One most people would only undertake by pulling out equity or construction/refinance or new build.

And sorry, you are correct it's not $60,000 extra. According to their math, it is just $53,500 extra

Here's How Much Tesla's New Solar Roof Could Cost

Completely agree it is a big expense upfront.... although if it works out like solar there are many companies that will make your upfront cost much lower and then take the tax credit when it comes.

Like any big addition to a house, remodeled bathroom/kitchen the sticker shock can be big but most people don't bat much of an eye even if they have to refi because it adds value to the house. Solar does this also and can actually make you money if you can charge back excess energy produced.

For me on my next house it would be the first renovation done.... although Andrea may not agree

 

[uzj100]

The home charging from my roof to my powerwall to my car would be huge. I believe this is the secret sauce. People are very emotional about stuff like that. I have neighbors with 3 hybrids and 1 full electric and a golf cart for neighborhood rides.

Like texting, never ever have to really interact. I see consultants at every Tesla house showing this off and collecting orders. 60k is peanuts for these folks.

Now if the car could plug itself in. Game over. ;<)

Or maybe strips on the floor you park over that charge the car.

 

[pawwright]

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But add in the tax credits that will come in (and all things point to those getting bigger each year).....

except for the NC state credit which McCrory refused to extend.......but I digress.

 

[lt1fire]

except for the NC state credit which McCrory refused to extend.......but I digress.

well there is really no accounting for him

 

[tgadd]

Anyone going to Cars and Coffee in Charlotte tomorrow? Going to drive out with the new truck.

 

[NCFJ]

I'll be hauling hay..................

 

[tgadd]

Oh my. I like this popup camper. I totally want one of these to drop in the new truck to go camping.

 

[fj40z]

Oh my. I like this popup camper. I totally want one of these to drop in the new truck to go camping. View attachment 1347464

That's awesome!! Any idea who made it?

 

[tgadd]

That's awesome!! Any idea who made it?

Four Wheel Pop-Up Campers - apparently been making them since 1920s. This model was specific to the K5 blazer and didn't have a floor, so it integrated better. They made some for Scouts and Broncos too.

 

[RedHeadedStepChild]

Interestingly, in good ol' communist ( and not sunny) Vermont, there has been enough solar that utilities have begun to push back on being forced to buyback power.
I honestly don't remember the details and don't have time to search for the article now, but as I remember it, they were pushing to just receive all excess power pushed onto the grid as their own, and there may have been talk of a solar surcharge. This later was based in the fact that it was not "good quality" power.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

@concretejungle has to be all cool and head to Portsmouth one week before the rest of the ONSC crew goes

 

[NCFJ]

I don't know if any of you have been following the case of the serial murderer in Spartanburg County but he confessed to the "Superbike" murders after being caught holding a woman hostage. The Superbike murders are 13 years old, 4 people executed. Very little evidence, no brass etc. I can not see this guy being idle for 13 years and my guess is that the body count is going to climb. I live 1/4 mile from that shop on the same road.

Heather and I were wondering about it yesterday morning when the news broke, if the guy was just looking for more attention. The Spartanburg Sheriff sent a couple deputies by here this morning to pick up a driver's license and some other ID I found on my property out by the main road this morning. We talked a bit about this guy and they said he gave information to them that had never been released and they assured me that this is indeed the guy.

I'd contribute to the building fund for gallows built on the square in downtown Spartanburg.

 

[JohnVee]

I've been wondering how close you were to any of this, Stan. I knew that Superbike must be close by. I also wouldn't be surprised if the count continues to rise.

 

[NCFJ]

I am 20 miles from the property where they found the girl.
He is a Realtor, imagine the amount of properties he has had access to in that time, staggering.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

@custyota Time to bring the red rocket in for it's first mod Meatball!

 

[stevezero]

My bet is he's trying to use the confession as a way to not get the death penalty. Which would be fine...he can live out the rest of his life in prison....just let the other inmates make that time as short as possible...

What a totally F'ed up dude.

 

[JohnVee]

Dear Craigslist Buyers,
Yes, I remember you. Yes, you called yesterday. Yes, something came up and you couldn't come by at the time you promised nor could you find time to return my texts, emails and calls to let me know that. Yes, I know how it is. Yes, don't worry - I still have the armoire, and it's still free. Yes, I know that's great since you're coming a long way for it and all. In fact, after you didn't come pick it up, I was even able to move it to the curb so it would be easier for you to load. Oh, no...thank YOU. And, you're quite welcome. I'll be here the rest of the day if you need help loading it. Yeah, again, you're welcome. And God bless you, too. I can tell you're good people.
--JV