"On road" handling differences with locker in the rear?

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lowtideride said:
Those are 35s and yes I need bigger tires...at least a set of 37s. The most trouble I had is when there was a rock ledge in the front set of tires and in the rear, and both ledges were more than vertical and much bigger than the tires...
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Holy Moley !!!

Very impressive LowTide. When I do the frame off on Clyde I'm rebuilding for 35". I want to go slow and progress to a SOA. I'll still be SUA, but 1" body lift and 1" shackle lift on OME's which are pretty high already and fully locked I'll have a nice 4x4 rig.

Use it or lose it. Enjoy it too. These trucks were meant for fun.

Cahil
 
cruiser guy,

These things are all hard define because they are somewhat subtle. The first time they happen, you'll be like "Oh, that is what they meant"

I just put an Aussie in the rear. It clicks coasting through turns. Chirps the inside tire starting from a stop in a right turn. And if you waffle on the throttle the rear end will push you around in a little bit. Worst case is it will do the herky jerky on you and people will think you don't know how to drive manual trans.

Bear in mind the your BJ60 is longer and heavier than my topless FJ40, so you will not feel the effects as much.

The worst thing that happened was when I was creeping out of my driveway and got a good "BANG!" out of the Aussie

Also, I think LSD in the front sounds like a solid plan for now
 
Funny follow-up - after driving the Cruiser for a week getting used to the Aussie, I hop in the Civic and drive 3.5 hours to Steamboat. That night I have a dream that the Honda is clicking when I go around turns. So in my dream I think " Oh $hit, I put the locker in the wrong vehicle!" LOL
 
lowtideride said:
eekk no power steering and a locked front....i would gather that locking a front and having ram assist go hand in hand....

I have a hell of a time trying to turn the wheel while in rocks...i could not even imagine it with out power steering and being locked...
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So am I best of to put the Aussie in the rear and the LSD in the front so that I can actually turn while in 4WD? I can see I'll need to "relearn" the truck's handling characteristics.
 
Just do it. Find a used one and then if you don't like it you can resell it and not really loose anything.
 
nickw said:
I can talk with you on messenger about this tonight.

Ttyl,
Nick
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Yep. I should be around.
 
cruiser_guy said:
So am I best of to put the Aussie in the rear and the LSD in the front so that I can actually turn while in 4WD? I can see I'll need to "relearn" the truck's handling characteristics.
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Yulp...that would be the ticket...
 
My personal opinon .. buy a new LSD nap .. 500 $ = Detroit now if the case that you have a used LSD rebuild and adjust it ( all you can ) do with it ..

After you have a both locked axles, you need to ask, how I can drive without it .. ?
 
Nope. Open diff unless it's an option, which I don't think it was. Cable lockers were, but not LSD's.

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LSD and cable lockers were NOT an option in Canada or the states. My LSD came from Australia. I just ordered the Aussie locker so the Aussie will be in the rear and the LSD in the front. The LSD must have a full floater as it doesn't have a means to restrain a "C" clip axle from a semi floater.
 
cruiser_guy said:
LSD and cable lockers were NOT an option in Canada or the states. My LSD came from Australia. I just ordered the Aussie locker so the Aussie will be in the rear and the LSD in the front. The LSD must have a full floater as it doesn't have a means to restrain a "C" clip axle from a semi floater.
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is a good convination .. Rear lcoker and front LSD, for this you only change the 3rd member ( rear ) to front .. and use the front to install the locker ( put this in rear, are the same )

Easy job ..

And yes .. drive carefulli fisrt miles .. to know your new drve capabilities and cons ..
 
We just got done doing Kelly Flats in the Cache La Poudre river canyon ~80 mile round trip w/ lots of twisty, turny road.

The Aussie did great off-road - not a peep, and she kept everything locked up. Made it up Heart Attack Hill on the first attempt.

On the drive back down, I could tell a little extra effort was required to drive my 40. I was chasing FJ Ben in Pigtastic (ARB's) and it wasn't as easy to stuff the 40 into turns and gas out of them. I was getting a little bit of oversteer tendancies.

I think a real basic way to put it is, when you apply throttle - your rig shoots straight forward. Nothing terrible or outrageous, just a very subtle difference that requires a little extra effort.

Also, no more bangs since that first one. The fine folks at Aussie contacted me via PM to inquire about the bang that I heard. Their thought was that I did not have the teat on a pin fully seated.
 
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I'm confused ....

Actually my name is really Cahil but I'm confused about my truck ...

In the rear Aussie Locker, OME light springs, OME tri-shackles.

The rear shock tube rusted of a week or so ago and since I'm re-framing I just took off the rear shocks.

On & off road the vehicle performs better without rear shocks ???

Now here's the question ...

The vehicle performs better *on-road* too ???

I'm not getting any *major* feed back at highway speeds from the locked up rear, the vibrations form the locker are minimal if un-noticeable at highway speeds.

What the heck ???

Do the rear leaf springs have enought inherent dampening ??? Are the rear shocks *DECREASING* the dampening in the rear ???

If we run a locker in the rear do we need to install a different ratio shock in the rear ???

Cahil

P.S. The locker is functioning correctly !!!
 
cahilc said:
Actually my name is really Cahil but I'm confused about my truck ...

In the rear Aussie Locker, OME light springs, OME tri-shackles.

The rear shock tube rusted of a week or so ago and since I'm re-framing I just took off the rear shocks.

On & off road the vehicle performs better without rear shocks ???

Now here's the question ...

The vehicle performs better *on-road* too ???

I'm not getting any *major* feed back at highway speeds from the locked up rear, the vibrations form the locker are minimal if un-noticeable at highway speeds.

What the heck ???

Do the rear leaf springs have enought inherent dampening ??? Are the rear shocks *DECREASING* the dampening in the rear ???

If we run a locker in the rear do we need to install a different ratio shock in the rear ???

Cahil

P.S. The locker is functioning correctly !!!
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That's almost hard to beleive. I've had a shock come off here in Central America due to the fine state of the roads here!! And I did not notice a big difference in "on road" performance or handling but I would expect that with no rear shocks you'd get some bouncing going on. Have you gone over any speed bumps with the shockless truck yet? How did it respond to those?
 
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