Oil Separator, possible cause and consecuence

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I was getting a sludge mix in my catch can.
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It ended up being that my timing was way off and the sludge was the result. After fixing timing, I just got oil like others have and removed the catch can.

I was using a diesel water separator.
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I was getting a sludge mix in my catch can. It ended up being that my timing was way off and the sludge was the result. After fixing timing, I just got oil like others have and removed the catch can.

I was using a diesel water separator.

So, you like the oil getting into the throttle body?
 
So, you like the oil getting into the throttle body?

I have 388,000 miles on it and it doesn't seam to be a problem so far. The EGR does more to "dirty up" the intake plenum than the oil does on my 80. The paper filter in the catch can does freeze up in winter. Probably not the correct catch can for winter.
 
I was getting a sludge mix in my catch can.
It ended up being that my timing was way off and the sludge was the result. After fixing timing, I just got oil like others have and removed the catch can.

I was using a diesel water separator.

Timing huh? Interesting. I get that kind of sludge in my JEGS separator but only in the winter. Just curious, how did u fix the timing problem?
 
I have 388,000 miles on it and it doesn't seam to be a problem so far. The EGR does more to "dirty up" the intake plenum than the oil does on my 80. The paper filter in the catch can does freeze up in winter. Probably not the correct catch can for winter.

Many good points here. Why do folks worry about a small amount of oil going in to the intake? It seems that EGR issues on the 1FZ are due to carbon (from exhaust) not oil varnish or similar, right? Toyota doesn't see the need to strain the small amount of oil, and neither do I.

And yes, any type of coalescing filter can and will freeze in cold climates. Some modern large diesel engines have to heat their coalescing filters due to this same issue.
 
Somehow I must (assume) of bumped the timing when I tightened the timing set bolt as it was way out of spec when I check it again. I drove that way for many months and miles with no signs of problems other than excessive oil consumption thus was the reason I put the catch can on to see where the consumption was coming from.
I was getting about a 1/4" of oil in can after 40 miles.
 
It is pricey, but the more I look at it, the more I like it :)

Question:

What is the elbow fitting on the top of the condensator used for :confused:

I think that is the ambient air inlet, which I believe is for carbureted and diesel engines. Mine doesn't have that port.
 
Phil, you saved me some $$. Was about to spring for the Lowe's version for about double.

Gracias, amigo.
 
So, you like the oil getting into the throttle body?

I believe its not liquid oil that is getting sucked into the intake plenum, its an oil vapor. It turns back into oil when it gets into the catch can. I could be wrong though.

I know on mine when I have the oil fill cap off, I get vapors that exit the fill hole. I assume it blow-by, oil vapor and moisture.
 
The best thing to use for the money is a non-vented catch can that is baffled and has mesh inside with a level tube on the side.
 
Vented Catch Can. Seen some when looking for one. How can a catch can hold vacuum if it has a vent on it?
 
I emailed the folks at Condensator with a few questions 10 days ago and they have yet to get back to me, so I started searching other similar kits and found this webpage that seems very informative :cool:

http://www.conceptualpolymer.com/new_page_1.htm


http://www.conceptualpolymer.com/PCV Line Oil Removal 102.pdf

Looks surprisingly like what comes in the hardware store air line water trap.

Except it's a ceramic or polymer filter element.

Mann-Hummel makes some well-regarded oil catch systems that are in the same price range. Not as pretty as they are made of ABS resin or something. Factory equipment on some Volvos, i hear.
 
Vented Catch Can. Seen some when looking for one. How can a catch can hold vacuum if it has a vent on it?

can't. but different breather systems are different. with a vented oil catch can you would plug the port in the throttle body.

i don't know if they are appropriate or desirable for our engines. I have heard that some cars smell like oil all the time if they have a vented catch can, but maybe cruisers smell like oil anyway?
 
I would put some clamps on the hoses.
 
Don't confuse the breather and PCV valve, one lets air into the valve cover and the PCV valve removes the vented air.
 

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