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1world1love
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Good find. I ran into this issue when I was originally shopping for wheels. It seems the JWL and VIA have standard "general use" load limits defined based only on lug and hub measurements but they don't define the safe carrying capacity of a specific wheel. More importantly, it seems like they leave safe max load designations up to the manufacturers. In so many cases, the manufacturers do not provide that.
Obviously having the JWL-T and VIA stamps are great, but if you take it at face value, 955KG is still way too low for a LC/LX, especially mine
No chance I would do my normal wheeling at > 8000lbs on 18 lb wheels with a 2100 lb rating on each corner.
Good find. I ran into this issue when I was originally shopping for wheels. It seems the JWL and VIA have standard "general use" load limits defined based only on lug and hub measurements but they don't define the safe carrying capacity of a specific wheel. More importantly, it seems like they leave safe max load designations up to the manufacturers. In so many cases, the manufacturers do not provide that.
Obviously having the JWL-T and VIA stamps are great, but if you take it at face value, 955KG is still way too low for a LC/LX, especially mine
No chance I would do my normal wheeling at > 8000lbs on 18 lb wheels with a 2100 lb rating on each corner.
I wasnt about to go there but exactly.
If i were @stupid, i would be calling someone up and verifying. If not for anything but peace of mind at least.
I think the Volks are pretty popular in UAE and Japan. I’ve never seen a failure posted up that I can recall.
Just chiming in to say that as mentioned earlier, they are stamped 770 kg. JWL standards are always getting updated which was probably why these OG TEs were discontinued (also the reason why production of the popular TE37Xs were stopped with the new TE37XTs taking its place).
1world1love
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Yeah, I know these are popular with racing/performance folk in Japan, and there may be LC/LX folks in Japan and the middle east running these with no problem. I am definitely not trying to influence anyone's buying decisions. They are high-quality, great looking wheels, and under 20 lbs.
Still, based on available data, these are (I think) ~400 lbs less per corner than OEM. For my particular use, I am probably not wanting to mod anything downward, so to speak.
Also, there is somewhat of an element of "if something looks too good to be true....."
Of course for $4k, maybe they are all that.
1world1love
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Hopefully the 770 KG is VIA P and somewhere on yours there is also VIA T-955KG.
That is some serious off camera light there....
I’ll have to take another look…
Taken with the long exposure setting on my iPhone 11 Pro.
I’ll have to take another look…
Taken with the long exposure setting on my iPhone 11 Pro.
For posterity's sake, here's the one from eBay. There was a build date sticker from 2012 as well. There are some more "ratings" on the right sticker. None of this matters to me of course, as there is zero chance I'm about to go spend $4k on wheels. Is it possible Japan/Rays generally only "certifies" them up to the GVWR when they are fairly specifically made for only one vehicle? I downloaded an annual catalog and the only vehicles with the 5x150 patterns were the 100/200/70 series.
I'll throw in my two cents: when it comes to wheels that will be used off-road, you want OEM and nothing but OEM. Aftermarket wheels are expensive, difficult to source, and are almost always weaker than OEM. You don't want to dent a rim and have it leak air on the trail, even if you do have a spare. If you bang up a pretty aftermarket wheel, you'll have to go and spend big bucks for a replacement. If you bang up an OEM wheel, you either don't give a crap, or find a cheap take-off set.
I've had "good quality" aftermarket wheels (ex. OZ Ultraleggera) on street cars, and have dented them... on the street. I can't imagine how they'd hold up in off-road conditions.
I've had "good quality" aftermarket wheels (ex. OZ Ultraleggera) on street cars, and have dented them... on the street. I can't imagine how they'd hold up in off-road conditions.
1world1love
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1world1love
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I don't want to belabor this discussion because this is probably not the best thread for it, but I think that the JWL and VIA ratings are solely based on the lug and hub configuration, and not to a specific application. So technically it may be specific to the LC, but not because they are designed for the LC GAWR (not GVWR), but because it is specific to the 5/150 pattern with a 110 hub. Any wheel made with 5/150/110 would have the same exact VIA rating.
At least that is how it was explained to me.
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I’d still like to hear more. Anywhere else more appropriate to have this fleshed out? Kind of important to know.
You could start a general thread discussion on the topic
1world1love
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I agree that it is important. I am probably not the most knowledgeable person to discuss though. We could start a separate thread or bring it up in the tire/wheel sticky and see if we can get more SME input.
My limited knowledge comes from my many months of shopping for wheels, and I found it to be incredibly confusing and difficult to find accurate information. Most manufacturers websites are terrible and lack anything but marketing fluff. Vendors rarely provide the type of technical specs that are important, and some just seem to make stuff up.
The reason I went with ICON is because I was actually able to talk to one of their engineers at Overland Expo for a while and specifically about the LC. I would agree with eatSleepWoof that OEM is the safest option. The ICON Vectors exceed the max weight rating of any OEM option, but if I were a betting person, a rock warrior is likely to exceed the capability of the vector in any practical sense.
Do you know where the oem weight ratings can be found?
1world1love
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I don't, and there has been a lot of discussion on it, but I am not sure if anybody ever found the specs. There is a lot of good discussion on this issue starting about here:
Stealth Custom Series Wheels - Possible RW replacement?
I've been searching for RW wheels for a couple of months now with no success. The ones I do find are in terrible condition or they want outrageous money. What does everyone think of this wheel? I found this company when looking for something aftermarket and similar to the RW wheel. I asked...
forum.ih8mud.com
It may be best to move this discussion there since that seems to have the most information that I can find anyways.
1world1love
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And just to bring the thread back, here are some shots from a fun day at Hollister Hills yesterday:
