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I previously owned a Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel. There is a lot I liked about the Jeep but it was lacking in the reliability department. The diesel exhaust filtration system left me stranded more than once. Vehicle reliability is a must for my upcoming move to Mauritania. Therefore, I eventually decided that the 200 met most of my needs (though diesel was my preference), and I pulled the trigger on a silver '13 with 50k miles.

Overall my goal is to make the vehicle more ruggedized for everyday life in Nouakchott. I do not plan on going on a grand overland cross continent journey, and will spend 99% of my time in the city. However, I will go on weekend excursions to the various beaches and plan on making longer weekend trips around Mauritania.

Diesel was my primary choice for fuel but I was limited to purchasing in the states and the vehicle could not be older than 8 years. I did look at larger diesel trucks but soon found that there were too many reliability problems, and I wanted a truck that did not have a DEF system. The only truck that met the import age restrictions, diesel, and without DEF was the RAM 2500, and unfortunately the transmissions in these trucks are not known to be bullet proof. Last thing I want to deal with in Africa is a bad tranny.

I purchased my 200 remotely, site unseen. I paid for an independent inspection of the vehicle and was told it was in fine mechanical condition. My standards for vehicles seemed to be a little higher than the mechanic's as I found the interior was not in the shape I expected, the wheels were scratched up, and a few other things, but overall I am happy with the purchase. I got it for a good deal so I'm not going to complain.

I arrived back in the states after living in Norway for 3 years on the 20th (I don't recommend flying into D.C. on inauguration day). The vehicle is currently at a shop getting aftermarket chrome stickers removed... ugh. I will deliver the truck to Rocky Top Customz on February 4th to have all of the work done. My planned build is:

  • OME Shocks and struts
  • 17" Rock Warrior wheels with BFGoodrich KO2s 285 75 17
  • VPR 4x4 Front Bumper
  • VPR 4x4 Rear Bumper
  • VPR 4x4 Rock Sliders
  • LED interior light bulbs
  • 10500lb Rugged Ridge Winch

In a few months:
  • ARB Snorkel
  • Off road lights

I'm also considering dual batteries, ARB Fridge, and ARB drawer system. I'm very much looking forward to this build. I have been working on this with Jason, the owner of Rocky Top Customz, for a few months now. I know he is super excited about this as well. I am also happy to report that Jason currently has all of the parts and equipment on hand for the install. VPR was late with the delivery as they ensured us that they equipment would arrive on the 23rd fortunately it did arrive today 1/27. This gives us just barely enough time for powder coating. I'll post pics and updates as they come.

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It looks so much better with that hideous chrome gone.

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VPR bumpers unboxed and ready for powder coating. Jay reported that they are built very well. However VPR 4x4 did tell both me and Jay that the rear bumper would accommodate the backup sensors, it does not. Jay will have to drill it to make them fit.

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Very nice, looking forward to seeing them installed!
 
I don't see any holes in the front bumper for the parking sensors - will you have to drill those holes as well?
 
Parking sensor holes are not round either. Pop one sensor out and trace edges.

Before cutting/drilling holes, use the existing harness to figure out layout if you don't want to cut and extend harness.
 
Bumpers are out of powder coating. Sorry guys, you have to wait to see them out of the plastic just like me.

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Update to the build:

We ran into an issue right from the get go. One of my KDSS valves is frozen. The shop broke several tools attempting to open that bolt and unfortunately they were unsuccessful. They have installed the suspension but we will not know how the KDSS will behave until tomorrow. Apparently the side that they did get open dumped out a lot of fluid. Jay was able to borrow the high pressure recharge tool from our local Toyota dealership. They will recharge the opened side of the KDSS tomorrow morning and in the afternoon they will take the truck out for a ride. Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, the truck will be balanced and work correctly but I know that it will likely be hosed. I do not want to replace that part if I don't have to. I've searched the forum looking for people with similar experiences and found that this unfortunately happens more often than we would like. I read that Slee has successfully installed suspension on a truck with a frozen KDSS bolt. Anyone have any experience with this?
 
It sounds like the shop did not follow the instructions on the KDSS system. They should not have opened the valve more than 3 turns. This would have prevented any fluid from escaping. I did a write up on un-freezing my valves - but it required patience....which shops don't have!

Good luck - I'm looking forward to seeing photos of those bumpers and sliders installed!
 
Apparently the side that they did get open dumped out a lot of fluid. Jay was able to borrow the high pressure recharge tool from our local Toyota dealership. They will recharge the opened side of the KDSS tomorrow morning and in the afternoon they will take the truck out for a ride.

I'm sorry, but this sends up all kinds of red flags for me.

The KDSS system would not just "dump out" a lot of fluid if a KDSS shutter valve were opened beyond 3 turns, it would absolutely spew out fluid - that system is under approx. 600psi pressure.

Further, I find it highly unlikely that any Toyota dealership would loan out any of their SST's (Special Service Tools) to ANY outside shop, particularly the tool for the KDSS system pressurization that is in high demand among dealerships - there are not enough to go around so dealerships who cannot afford to purchase one must borrow them from dealerships that have one.

If it were my vehicle, I'd have a Toyota dealership inspect, recharge and balance the KDSS system. The KDSS system is key to the onroad and offroad function and safety of the entire suspension system. If your independent shop doing the work on your truck does not correctly pressurize the KDSS system so that both halves of the system are properly balanced, it could result in unpredictable behavior at highway speeds that might not be recoverable.

Again, I'm sorry if this sounds unnecessarily alarmist, but it is vitally important to get the KDSS system right. The fact that your shop could not manage a simple procedure like opening a shutter valve no more than 3 turns would not give me confidence that they could handle any work involving the KDSS.

HTH
 
I'm sorry, but this sends up all kinds of red flags for me.

The KDSS system would not just "dump out" a lot of fluid if a KDSS shutter valve were opened beyond 3 turns, it would absolutely spew out fluid - that system is under approx. 600psi pressure.

Further, I find it highly unlikely that any Toyota dealership would loan out any of their SST's (Special Service Tools) to ANY outside shop, particularly the tool for the KDSS system pressurization that is in high demand among dealerships - there are not enough to go around so dealerships who cannot afford to purchase one must borrow them from dealerships that have one.

If it were my vehicle, I'd have a Toyota dealership inspect, recharge and balance the KDSS system. The KDSS system is key to the onroad and offroad function and safety of the entire suspension system. If your independent shop doing the work on your truck does not correctly pressurize the KDSS system so that both halves of the system are properly balanced, it could result in unpredictable behavior at highway speeds that might not be recoverable.

Again, I'm sorry if this sounds unnecessarily alarmist, but it is vitally important to get the KDSS system right. The fact that your shop could not manage a simple procedure like opening a shutter valve no more than 3 turns would not give me confidence that they could handle any work involving the KDSS.

HTH

Today they will attempt to recharge the system and will have the bumpers etc installed. They will take it out on the road for a test. If they don't get it right I'll have to let Toyota attempt to fix it. Is it easy to delete KDSS
 
Talk to @Trollhole he's looking for a special case to try out his ideas with non KDSS sway bars (f/r) conversion that he currently has in inventory. PM that guy if you're serious about ditching KDSS he'd probably be on you like white on rice.
 
Talk to @Trollhole he's looking for a special case to try out his ideas with non KDSS sway bars (f/r) conversion that he currently has in inventory. PM that guy if you're serious about ditching KDSS he'd probably be on you like white on rice.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to keep the KDSS it may require a part replacement but I want to keep it.
 
Smart man
 
Agree, KDSS is a great system.
 
We were able to get the KDSS sorted out. The instal finished up smoothly. Jay and Zach and the guys at rocky top customz did a fantastic job! Pictures will follow shortly. I snapped a lot with my Nikon and need time to process them. If after I post the initial set of pictures you guys want pictures of specific things just let me know. The bumpers look great.
 
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