New Starter from Longo Lexus dealer is acting up (LX450) (3 Viewers)

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After less than a year of use, the starter I purchased from Longo Lexus has begun failing intermittently. When I turn the key, I often hear loud clicks from the starter but no crank. After waiting 5–10 minutes, it suddenly engages and starts the engine strongly, with no sign of a weak battery. The battery is new and tests fine. The issue is random for example, after a 40-mile drive, it failed to start at a gas stop, then worked minutes later. The same thing happened again this morning. I will try to return the starter but need some recommendations which one i should get now that I can rely on. Leaving on a trip to Page AZ from Orange County CA and dont want to end up stranded. Where should i buy another one from?
 
After less than a year of use, the starter I purchased from Longo Lexus has begun failing intermittently. When I turn the key, I often hear loud clicks from the starter but no crank. After waiting 5–10 minutes, it suddenly engages and starts the engine strongly, with no sign of a weak battery. The battery is new and tests fine. The issue is random for example, after a 40-mile drive, it failed to start at a gas stop, then worked minutes later. The same thing happened again this morning. I will try to return the starter but need some recommendations which one i should get now that I can rely on. Leaving on a trip to Page AZ from Orange County CA and dont want to end up stranded. Where should i buy another one from?

Toyota parts are warrantied for 1 year.

Bring back and get another one.
 
Toyota parts are warrantied for 1 year.

Bring back and get another one.

True, but they only sell products labeled as remanufactured. I was hoping to get something brand new I don’t want it happening again somewhere remote. That are brands like Denso or Bosch. If anyone has used one of those then some feedback would be helpful.
 
True, but they only sell products labeled as remanufactured. I was hoping to get something brand new I don’t want it happening again somewhere remote. That are brands like Denso or Bosch. If anyone has used one of those then some feedback would be helpful.
Huh a Lexus dealership only sells remanufucktured parts 🤔
 
True, but they only sell products labeled as remanufactured. I was hoping to get something brand new I don’t want it happening again somewhere remote. That are brands like Denso or Bosch. If anyone has used one of those then some feedback would be helpful.
I have a Bosch in one or my 80s and the oem reman denso (the higher rated one for cold weather) in another. Both are flawless. Only reason I have a Bosch in one is that PO installed it thinking it’d be better
 
I had 2 reman OEM starters that were faulty out of the box. Both of them purchased from a Toyota dealer.
Both had to be rebuilt by me as the solenoid plungers were used and pitted and the contacts were installed poorly.
Just because it came in a red and white box, that's no guarantee that Billy-Bob who rebuilds starters and just got his first pubic hair actually knows what's he's doing.
 
Mr. ChatGPT seems to have a step by step troubleshooting steps. Copied below but i am always skeptical about Mr GPT's state or mind. Sometime he hallucinates.
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1. Worn solenoid contacts inside the starter (most likely)

Toyota/Lexus starters of this era (Denso type) are famous for wearing out their copper solenoid contacts after years of use.
  • The solenoid still clicks loudly, but the internal copper contacts no longer carry full current to spin the motor — so you get clicks, no crank.
  • When it finally lines up and makes good contact, it cranks normally and powerfully — exactly what you’re describing.
✅ Fix:
Replace the starter solenoid contact set and plunger (cheap repair kit, about $15–25) or replace the entire starter under warranty.

2. Voltage drop or resistance in the starter circuit

Corroded terminals, frayed cable, or loose connection between the battery, starter, or ground can cause intermittent no-crank.
  • The click means the solenoid coil got enough voltage to pull in, but the main contacts didn’t see enough current to spin the motor
✅ Check:

Battery positive terminal clean and tight
  • Ground strap from battery to engine block intact
  • Starter’s main power cable clean and tight
  • Voltage drop test (you should see <0.5 V drop on both power and ground side while cranking)
3. Starter relay or ignition switch weakness
A weak relay or worn ignition switch can intermittently fail to deliver full current to the starter solenoid trigger terminal.
  • On the LX450, the ignition switch output for “START” can degrade with age or heat.
✅ Check:
Measure voltage at the solenoid trigger wire while turning the key to START — should be 12 V.
  • If it’s low (8–10 V or intermittent), you’ve found the issue.
  • Some owners add a “starter relay booster mod” to fix chronic low-voltage start circuits.











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4. Starter itself defective (bad rebuild or intermittent internal open)






  • Even new or reman starters can fail early — misaligned brushes or heat-sensitive internal open circuit.
  • If this starter was installed less than a year ago, Longo Lexus should warranty it — especially if it’s an OEM Denso unit.






✅ Action:




  • Ask Longo Lexus to bench-test it under load.
  • Mention that the solenoid clicks audibly and the engine starts strong once it engages — classic bad-contact symptom.











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5. Ground or battery cable heat soak






  • After a long drive, heat in the engine bay increases resistance in old cables.
  • You stop for a few minutes, and the starter won’t engage until it cools slightly.






✅ Clue:


If the no-start happens only when hot, check cable integrity and consider adding a dedicated ground strap directly from battery to starter mounting bolt.










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Summary of probabilities

 
Buy a set of the contacts and plunger and rebuild it yourself. Once you pull it out to warranty it you are 1/2 there.
I would want to open it and look inside before trying to return it anyway because there’s a small chance it’s something else. If it looks great in there, I’d for an issue elsewhere.
 

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