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Dang Arich. You've had all the suspension setups so thank you for your input.
As for budget, I don't think I'm opposed to spending above $2-3k for a full suspension setup, but the thought of rebuilding these higher end models after 30-40k miles makes me pause. I already have one money pit so I don't believe it'll go well when my wife starts seeing the LC sitting on jack stands because I have to send out the suspension to get rebuilt.
As for budget, I don't think I'm opposed to spending above $2-3k for a full suspension setup, but the thought of rebuilding these higher end models after 30-40k miles makes me pause. I already have one money pit so I don't believe it'll go well when my wife starts seeing the LC sitting on jack stands because I have to send out the suspension to get rebuilt.
Let me send that question the ARB and I'll get back to you.Dang Arich. You've had all the suspension setups so thank you for your input.
As for budget, I don't think I'm opposed to spending above $2-3k for a full suspension setup, but the thought of rebuilding these higher end models after 30-40k miles makes me pause. I already have one money pit so I don't believe it'll go well when my wife starts seeing the LC sitting on jack stands because I have to send out the suspension to get rebuilt.
If the BP-51's don't need to be rebuilt every 40k miles, that's the route I'm going once you try the new versions and figure out the clunking. 
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I've been happy with my Ironman Foam Cell Pros. The only negative I can find is that the Springs have settled more than I would have liked.
Similar question, I have cooper discoverer at3 285/65/18 (3% oversize) and want shocks that will improve on road handling, cornering and braking at speed, but be ok for occasional off road, have a 13,500lb hidden winch on afn mount but that doesn't add much weight, dyneema rope and mount weighed similar to aluminium bumper bar removed. Looking at Bilstein B6 or Koni rough track (and turning them up a few clicks to stiffer). Wouldn't mind an inch of lift at the front but not sure about OME or Ironman foam cell pro complete sets, seen mixed reviews about quality of both. Any suggestions much appreciated. I have a US model 5.6L but live in the UK. New on here as I tried unsuccessfully to register a few times! Thanks
To the OP and others asking the same questions, there are several options for the 200, and all at different price points. This list is by no means complete, and the prices except those from Slee Offroad are from sources on the internet, and subject to error.
Bilstein 4600 series, approximately $500+
OME Stock Load 2" Lift Kit, includes springs $1005 (slee)
Ironman Foam Cell Pro, without spring approximately $1000
OME Stock Load 2" Lift Kit with UCA, $1585 (Slee)
King OEM Performance shocks, approximately $3000
OME BP-51 Kit / UCA, $3405 (Slee)
Be aware that any lift might require UCA to get the alignment in specifications. You can find reviews for all the setups listed here on Mud with a quick search. For a direct replacement the Bilsteins are an economical choice that will also offer a slight increase in control. At the other end of the price point the Kings and the OME BP-51 are undoubtedly at the top performance wise. It would appear that the OME Nitrocharger Sport setup with or without the UCA is the real bargain, if a lift is desired.
On a side note, I was really interested in the Bilstein 6112 setup Brian Jowett was working on, but that appears to be no more.
What about Koni 88 series all the way around? I found these online for about $720 US plus shipping. I've never had Konis on a vehicle before.
88-1747
Front
88-1748
Rear
Are the stock shocks Tokico- same as the 4runner?
88-1747
Front
88-1748
Rear
Are the stock shocks Tokico- same as the 4runner?
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Oops, forgot about the Koni. arich ran them also, the 90's, not the 88's.
Official Koni 90 "RAID" Thread
Anyone willing to take this a step further to compile expected service life (50k miles? 100k miles?), firmness/handling, and known issues?
Sometimes when searching the forums I feel like we need a Land Cruiser wiki.
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We (Dobinsons) offer 3 shock choices for the 200 series.
Dobinsons Twin tube nitrogen charged shocks (OE replacement), reuse your OE springs, no worries about lift. $440 front and rear
Dobinsons MRR - Monotube Remote Reservoir, adjustable front coil seat, can reuse OE coils. $1400 front and rear
Dobinsons Monster shocks - adjustable front coil seat, can reuse OE coils or buy new. Massive body size (45mm piston front and rear, 75mm body front, 70mm body rear), similar-ish to Koni's that people have been talking about. $850 front and rear
Dobinsons Twin tube nitrogen charged shocks (OE replacement), reuse your OE springs, no worries about lift. $440 front and rear
Dobinsons MRR - Monotube Remote Reservoir, adjustable front coil seat, can reuse OE coils. $1400 front and rear
Dobinsons Monster shocks - adjustable front coil seat, can reuse OE coils or buy new. Massive body size (45mm piston front and rear, 75mm body front, 70mm body rear), similar-ish to Koni's that people have been talking about. $850 front and rear
Do you supply in the uk? How do the first lot compare to Bilstein firmness etc?
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Yes I do. PM for more info
To compare twin tubes to monotubes is a bit tricky. They're similar to OME but softer in valving, more like a comfort option. So much depends on coil choice too. But I don't have a side by side comparison though since so much comes down to "feel" and everyone has a different opinion.
What other details do you have of the Monsters? Service life? Height adjustability?
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For the Monster shocks, they're basically giant versions of the yellow twin tubes. They're sealed units, not rebuildable or adjustable on rebound/compression. The seat height has inches of room to play with. So you could go from less than stock height to probably 3-4" (not that you would). They come with the same warranty as our Twin Tubes, 2 years from date of invoice (no mileage restriction).
I agree, Kings are awesome. I'm working on getting a full active suspension but $30k is a bit much at the moment.Go with the King's... You won't be disappointed.
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Hi Anthony-
At this point I don’t know what the service intervals are going to look like on these. We’re going for longevity as that’s what our customers expect and it will depend a lot on how they are used, but in real world terms, they haven’t been out long enough to get a good idea on mileage or time intervals yet.
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Mitch Carter
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Air Locker, Inc.
425-264-1391
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Hi Anthony-
At this point I don’t know what the service intervals are going to look like on these. We’re going for longevity as that’s what our customers expect and it will depend a lot on how they are used, but in real world terms, they haven’t been out long enough to get a good idea on mileage or time intervals yet.
Best Regards,
Mitch Carter
Tech Dept.
Air Locker, Inc.
425-264-1391
4810 D St NW
Auburn, WA 98001- 2466
mitchc@arbusa.com
Hi arich I was researching shocks and found your example in this thread. I have a 2008 200 and was just told by Toyota service my front struts were leaking. So I figure now is the time to replace front and rear. I don't want to lift the truck, just replace the shocks. From what I understand, in the picture above you had the Bilstein B6 4600's on and the top setting in the front leveling out the truck while keeping the rear stock height. Is that correct? Thanks for any input!
Icons are worth considering..... even their base line are smoother then stock, but the adjsutable are truly great....
they may need to be rebuilt at some point but they're worth it IMHO.... just put 1500 miles of highspeed highway miles on in "firm" thne the last 300 miles offroad and around the mtn's in "soft" or what I call "dog-paws" - they just soak everything up. and crawl over things with no real consequence...
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they may need to be rebuilt at some point but they're worth it IMHO.... just put 1500 miles of highspeed highway miles on in "firm" thne the last 300 miles offroad and around the mtn's in "soft" or what I call "dog-paws" - they just soak everything up. and crawl over things with no real consequence...
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