new mud tires chewing up very fast

[Tin Tin]

Hey All,

We need some help;

the problem is;

We often go wheeling in an old mine, and some of the roads are full of loose and sharp rocks.
last time we ran into serious problems.
2 tires punctured, only 1 spare. in the middle of nowhere.

One rock cut straight true the tread and one on the edge of the tread and sidewall.

I also see the "decent, near new" tires wear super fast.


question;

Should I buy cheaper mud tires and bring 1 more spare.
Or buy more expensive mud tires like BFG and have alot less problems.

 

[cody c]

Hmm, I would suggest looking into either michelin ZML's or XML's, or else running used humvee wheels/tires and keeping a few spares on hand.

 

[Tin Tin]

this really comes down to cheap vs expensive in harsh conditions.


Ill certainly check out the michelins

tire chains are very expensive but I think that needs personal testing.
or have people done this already.

humvee tires are no option here.

 

[Fast Eddy]

You may be able to find some tough tractor tires though. No DOT worries, I would guess.

 

[jgranthevagrant]

Chains probably won't help much in this situation, and you will wear out your chains. I carry 2 spares, puncture kit, air compressor, etc.

 

[BrotherRob]

This seems counter intuitive but I have found that a softer tire is more resistant to damage from sharp objects. Softer tires tend to stretch around sharp rocks which reduces the damage. The best thing you can do with your current tires is to air down to the point where the tire has some flex (8-15 psi depending on the tire).

BFGs are a very sturdy tire, they tend to take a lot of damage in AZ. You're better off finding something with a little more give. A softer tire will not only resist off road damage but also have better road manners.

 

[cruiserpilot]

I run the Toyo M/T's for the reason you are having troubles. They are a E rated, 10 ply tire. I live with logging/mining roads that are all fresh sharp granite blast rock. These tires are expensive and worth every cent for me. I've not had any problems so far after 30,000 kms. Look for a larger void in the tread that won't capture and hold sharp rocks.

 

[jgranthevagrant]

I seem to punch holes in all tires, so I'm trying to find a less breakable brand. Is that Ladysmith, B.C., on the island? @cruiserpilot? I have a particular talent for taking the sidewalls out.

 

[cruiserpilot]

I seem to punch holes in all tires, so I'm trying to find a less breakable brand. Is that Ladysmith, B.C., on the island? @cruiserpilot? I have a particular talent for taking the sidewalls out.

Yup,
I used to have BFG A/T's, but I was always going through treads and sidewalls. I know the MT's are better for sure. D rated minimum, E rated for max protection.

 

[Josie'sLandCruiser]

Hi all,

The side walls on BFG MT tires are not very stout, I've killed 2 and a buddy has done the same.

It is really a radial tire problem. They have flexible side walls for ride comfort, etc. I switched to bias ply Super Swamper mud tires specifically for the stouter side walls.

Regards,

Alan

 

[Tin Tin]

a high load and speed rated tire should be best.
bigger rims and stouter tires.
bigger tires normally are higher rated.
but much $$

 

[Mace]

Don't spin the tires as much.

 

[snobdds]

Bias ply tires...

 

[Red Wagon]

Air down more, get run flat bags.

 

[scrowley]

Run flats or Bias Ply

 

[damage control]

I eventually went with the xmls.bought them used about 6 months ago.there are no real signs of wear that I can tell.