The engine tested above smoked like crazy each time it was used.
My seafoam experience. . . . . (1 Viewer)
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Cruiser Jimmy
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e9999 said:IOW, the miracle cure...
you'd think with all this, they'd tell you to drink it and it would cure arthritis, hair loss, and be better than Viagra, among many other ...
(j/k, don't try this at home, kids....
Well, I've got no problem with the little Jimmy, but I've got a retreating hairline. Not receding hairline, but a retreating hairline.
IF the smoking IS the cleaning THEN you should REPEAT the treatment until there is NO smoking. I'm wondering just how many times you would need to do this for this would tell you what PERCENTAGE of junk was removed by each treatment. Please do this for us and post the results.
You may have an internal oil leak that is the fuel source and the smoking will never stop. This would explain why some users never get any smoke at all.
You may have an internal oil leak that is the fuel source and the smoking will never stop. This would explain why some users never get any smoke at all.
Pskhaat
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??? Many folks myself included have experience with significant smoke on a perfectly operational engine without oil leaks and of course the smoking DOES stop.
I have also had cars that did not smoke AT ALL. Some that have, neither had oil leaks as you mention?
I have also had cars that did not smoke AT ALL. Some that have, neither had oil leaks as you mention?
I worked at a gas station when I was young. Someone said automatic transmission fluid did wonders for cleaning the carb and engine. We tried it on evening shift a few times (no boss to yell at us), by pouring a little directly into the carbs of our own cars. I have no idea whether it cleaned anything or not but it did makes clouds of billowing white smoke. Pretty cool to watch the neighbourhood disappear when I was 17.
Point being: I'm not sure you can equate smoke with cleaning. I don't think the transmission fluid hurt anything in the engine but, did it help? Or did we just feel better thinking it helped?
Point being: I'm not sure you can equate smoke with cleaning. I don't think the transmission fluid hurt anything in the engine but, did it help? Or did we just feel better thinking it helped?
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Say what you will, i tried it and now i can say that it shifts smoother and the idle is a lot more steady. Not that the idle was irratic or anything, just idles smoother. That is what i can say with my experience. I have no bench-top tests to quantify the results.
Just a side note on the seafoam.....
Today I took the two pistons that had a lot of carbon build up on the domes. I then placed two thick plastic cups on the counter. I placed a piston in each of the cups and filled one with Seafoam and the other with PB Blaster. The PB Blaster ate thru the side of the cup in a few minutes. I placed it in another cup and filled it up again. Then came back 6 hours later. The PB Blaster cup had ate thru the whole bottom (ya I knew it would), the Seafoam cup was still 100% intact. Then I removed the pistion from the PB Blaster cup. It had removed some but not much carbon. I then removed the piston from the Seafoam. Still looked exactly the same with no carbon removal. Next test was to spray the PB piston with some more PBB and use a brass wire brush to see what I could removed manually. It came off fairly easy with a few flakes still adhering to the dome. I did the same with the SF with a lot more work and not as good a result. Within a few minutes I had the PBB piston dome cleaned. The SF piston was taking so long I finally just sprayed it with PBB and finished it.
So does this mean the PB Blaster would make a better decarbonizer then Seafoam if used the exact same way? Nope... because we also tested the PB Blaster the same was we used the Seafoam and the piston domes in that engine still looked the same with a ton of carbon buildup. It smoked like a bad dog just like the Seafoam but the results as a decarbonizer were the same. I think you would get the same results if you poured melted lard down the carb.
When soaked and scrubbed the PBB did a better job. It also does a better job with rusted on bolts and such.
These are just my own results. But it would be good to see others test the same products in the same manner as I just did.
Today I took the two pistons that had a lot of carbon build up on the domes. I then placed two thick plastic cups on the counter. I placed a piston in each of the cups and filled one with Seafoam and the other with PB Blaster. The PB Blaster ate thru the side of the cup in a few minutes. I placed it in another cup and filled it up again. Then came back 6 hours later. The PB Blaster cup had ate thru the whole bottom (ya I knew it would), the Seafoam cup was still 100% intact. Then I removed the pistion from the PB Blaster cup. It had removed some but not much carbon. I then removed the piston from the Seafoam. Still looked exactly the same with no carbon removal. Next test was to spray the PB piston with some more PBB and use a brass wire brush to see what I could removed manually. It came off fairly easy with a few flakes still adhering to the dome. I did the same with the SF with a lot more work and not as good a result. Within a few minutes I had the PBB piston dome cleaned. The SF piston was taking so long I finally just sprayed it with PBB and finished it.
So does this mean the PB Blaster would make a better decarbonizer then Seafoam if used the exact same way? Nope... because we also tested the PB Blaster the same was we used the Seafoam and the piston domes in that engine still looked the same with a ton of carbon buildup. It smoked like a bad dog just like the Seafoam but the results as a decarbonizer were the same. I think you would get the same results if you poured melted lard down the carb.
When soaked and scrubbed the PBB did a better job. It also does a better job with rusted on bolts and such.
These are just my own results. But it would be good to see others test the same products in the same manner as I just did.
Just curious,
The seafoam is said to be safe on all engine components, thats why i didnt mind pouring it in my 1fz.
Is the pb blaster safe on rubber components and whatnot? if it ate through a plastic cups i would be scared to put it in an engine.
The seafoam is said to be safe on all engine components, thats why i didnt mind pouring it in my 1fz.
Is the pb blaster safe on rubber components and whatnot? if it ate through a plastic cups i would be scared to put it in an engine.
Cruiserhead05 said:
I didnt expect it to eat thru the cups like it did... I knew it would eat the second cup... but I just needed something I trusted to compare with the Seafoam. Neither product decarbonized the pistons when used in a running engine. But when we soaked them there was a difference. I have used the PBB to clean carbon build up in diesel intakes. It does a nice job. But it was used as in the second method as a soaker and not a soak and start the engine to watch it smoke thinking that was carbon build up being blown out of the exhaust.
I am sure the Seafoam works well as a fuel cleaner... I just dont see it doing anything as a top end cleaner to remove carbon buildup. Plus I think you would see better results as a fuel system cleaner using a good blend of gas and ethanol like maybe an E30 blend.
The next engine we tear into I will preform the same tests... but I would love to see how this GM Topend cleaner works.
Had to DO IT
I would like to be the first to mention the potential health effects and pollutants this stuff may cause. I would like to see some results from that. OK...
I too am a LC driver and know that gas mileage is a factor if I am to be so concerned, but all that smoking from the emissions / tailpipe can't be good for our lovely
and 
, and especially if all the prelminary tests prove it hasn't done anything other than smoke. If this stuff is so good then why isn't it for sale by at least someone on a late night infomercial....
OH YEAH
I would like to be the first to mention the potential health effects and pollutants this stuff may cause. I would like to see some results from that. OK...
I too am a LC driver and know that gas mileage is a factor if I am to be so concerned, but all that smoking from the emissions / tailpipe can't be good for our lovely
and , and especially if all the prelminary tests prove it hasn't done anything other than smoke. If this stuff is so good then why isn't it for sale by at least someone on a late night infomercial.... OH YEAH
Oh yeah. I have never been a fan of NAPA.. Hence the Infomercial comment. And yes I like the Smilies late at night.....
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Nemo said:I would like to be the first to mention the potential health effects and pollutants this stuff may cause. I would like to see some results from that. OK...
I too am a LC driver and know that gas mileage is a factor if I am to be so concerned, but all that smoking from the emissions / tailpipe can't be good for our lovely
OH YEAH
Yea, well nuke the whales
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=64836
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=69490
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=69490
Toysrme said:Model and Year?: Lexus ES 300 (camry) 1993 (3vz-fe)
PCV or Brake Booster Line for Intake? Vacuum testing port on the side of the Intake Air Chamber
Amount of Seafoam Used: 2 cans of seafoam (1 in march, 1 in april '05), applied three times in 2/3 cup incriments. (Measure out into a seperate cup, put your finger on the end of the line to stop a vacuum leak, dip line in the measured amount, release finger - engine stalls. If not Immediately shut it down). The engine should be warmed up to temperature before you treat it.
Location(s)- Intake, Crankcase, or Gas tank: Intake, Crankcase, Gas tank (And transmission)
Amount of time it sat before restart: exactly 5 min... Like the OLD can's of seafoam suggested
Duration and desciption of smoke: 5-10 min, heavy on all applications
Following old directions, the engine idled until smoking started dieing down. Then the car was driven until the smoking stopped. Making liberal use of the top RPM range a few times before it all burns out
Following Gas mileage experience: Unknown. Too many mods at one time to form an opinion, but record 28mpg over 400highway only miles was achived while clean.
Other relevant notes:
Before Seafoam:
8/9 months after following my directions for a seafoam treatment. (So there's more coloration than if I tore it apart a few days after finishing)
Seafoam does not clean the intake. Neither will a carb cleaner, or any other such thing. To clean the intake track you have to take it off & clean it by hand, be that with a brush, or a rotary cleaning tool.
Sorry to break the format, but yall haven't seen compairison pictures before
*Edit#2* (#1 was a bad pic) A little fakey. The middle cylinder had a blown headgasket, which is why that piston is so much cleaner than others.
Here is a better pick of the #6 piston (right most in the top pic).
Notice all black carbon is gone & it's golden/brown.
Andy, you are top notch
but that is a totally misleading post and photos. If Seafoam posted that, they would get their butt kicked. Even if you look at just the one cylinder off to the right, it is still dirty from a blown HG.
Just the fact you are comparing a blown engine to a clean one...
thanks for the links for all the reading to understand the full story
but that is a totally misleading post and photos. If Seafoam posted that, they would get their butt kicked. Even if you look at just the one cylinder off to the right, it is still dirty from a blown HG.
Just the fact you are comparing a blown engine to a clean one...
thanks for the links for all the reading to understand the full story
maybe i misunderstood what he was trying to say, but what i got from the story was that he had the head off for a HG replacement and the first pic is how the pistons looked...
he reassembled the top end and did not clean the pistons. he ran seafoam, went about 8 or 9 months, and then blew a HG. upon removal of the head again, the pistons were cleaner. not just the one where the HG blew, but all of them.
how is that misleading?
he reassembled the top end and did not clean the pistons. he ran seafoam, went about 8 or 9 months, and then blew a HG. upon removal of the head again, the pistons were cleaner. not just the one where the HG blew, but all of them.
how is that misleading?
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re_guderian
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Well I SeaFoamed my engine today. I think I got about +10 HP, and 2 1/2" of lift in back! But seriously. I didn't even get any smoke. I rev'd it up to about 2000-2500 RPMs and got a little puff, but that's about it. Sitll drives like a 3-ton truck, acceleration-wise. Do I want my money back? Nah, it does seem to idle a little better. I had two cans, so I threw one in the tank with a fillup. We'll see if anything noticeable happens.
But seriously. I didn't even get any smoke. I rev'd it up to about 2000-2500 RPMs and got a little puff, but that's about it. Sitll drives like a 3-ton truck, acceleration-wise. Do I want my money back? Nah, it does seem to idle a little better. I had two cans, so I threw one in the tank with a fillup. We'll see if anything noticeable happens.
concretejungle said:
I've used SEAFOAM for years in 20r, 22r, 3VZ-E, 3RZ-FE, 5VZ-FE, and 2UZ-FE. I've always been pleased with the results and I'm not surprised by your results
SEAFOAM is also an excellent fuel conditioner.
As far as comparisons of PB Blaster and SEAFOAM motor treatment, I don't get it? They are different types of products and have different uses. SEAFOAM makes a product similar to PB Blaster called Deap Creep. Maybe compare Deap Creep and PB Blaster, since they are used for the same thing.
