sorry if not clear. i got your point. if nitrogen then a bike shop will not help.
May have a new shock option soon!
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sorry if not clear. i got your point. if nitrogen then a bike shop will not help.
You can probably use air, but nitrogen is better
I put all 4 shocks on two cruisers last night. I now have full appreciation for those top bolts on the rear shocks
but with two people, a ratcheting box end and enough beer it's doable. First impressions are very good. Gone is the wallowing and I agree with petrotk40 that these seem be well matched to the vehicle in controlling the bigger stuff while still giving a comfortable and controlled ride during normal driving. I'll also be giving these a test via road trip this week with some towing and hopefully a bit of offroading as well.
I put a bunch of miles on my new Fox's this weekend. I think overall they are great.
Pros:
-soak up big bumps
-weight transition in corners is much smoother
-better ride on rough roads
-95% of highway travel is sooooo much more comfortable
Cons
-that other 5%... They can be a tad floaty. I think the rebound isn't quit firm enough. Traveling at highway speeds, if there are some rolls in the road you tend to get shot upward more than I would like.
Personally, I think the compression could be a bit softer and rebound a bit firmer.
Overall I am happy. 99% of the time, these feel like a significant improvement over the OEM shocks.
Pros:
-soak up big bumps
-weight transition in corners is much smoother
-better ride on rough roads
-95% of highway travel is sooooo much more comfortable
Cons
-that other 5%... They can be a tad floaty. I think the rebound isn't quit firm enough. Traveling at highway speeds, if there are some rolls in the road you tend to get shot upward more than I would like.
Personally, I think the compression could be a bit softer and rebound a bit firmer.
Overall I am happy. 99% of the time, these feel like a significant improvement over the OEM shocks.
Same thoughts as well I'm doing a 1,400 mile trip this week and will give me a lot of feedback. I'm starting to like them the more I drive it. Can you see why I was not a fan of the ride coming from a stiff shock? That bounce certainly is a bit much, I could do without.
I can see exactly where you were coming from. That is my one complaint and I think I experienced once every 100 miles or so. It'll just depend on the road and your speed. The sweet spot for these shocks is around 30-40 mph, they are in the zone. Smooth, controlled, very stable, even on rough dirt roads. The OEM shocks tended to have some shimmy on rough dirt roads, these have none.
After a six days of off road travel (~ 400 miles off road) I'm pleased overall with the long travel Radflo shocks. They seemed to have broken in and softened a bit. Zero noise/clicking with the long travel version. And as I had posted before, they pick up about 2-1/2" increase in rear travel. I still want work with MT/Radflo to look at softening the low-speed damping rate a little as I still get a bit of chatter on just general rough roads. Might be as simple as lowering the nitrogen pre-charge in the remote. I'm sure part of the problem is the E rated side walls (although at 25 PSIG). Big hits are phenomenal in their absorption.
Truck feels solid and true on the highway.
The only necessary 'fix' at this point is to get some Timbren bump stops up front. The 1" JT spacers and TC UCA's cause the 35's to hit the fender liner on big compressions. Not into the metal, just noisy plastic rubbing.
Based on my experience, the Timbren bump stops are unlikely to eliminate the contact you describe above. I find that the Timbren's do a great job of eliminating the harshness of bottoming out the up-wards travel, however they are relatively soft and as a result don't really "limit" the upwards travel very well...
I'm running a 0.5" body lift, and the timbrens, and I still have my 35's (these days 34's) making contact much like you describe above (I'm running AHC still, so that's different, but when it comes to the "limiting" ability of the Timbren stops, I'm not sure that this matters much.)
Just and FYI -- your mileage may vary.
Good input. So, can we add spacers to move them down?
I've added about 1/2" in spacers to push them down. Difficult to push much further because of the length of the mounting bolt...
^^ agree with this.
I am on the fence with these right now. I am debating on pulling them off, however at the same time I am enjoying them. It's a love/hate relationship. However I can't say too many good things other than when I am on a perfectly flat road, at a stop light, or sitting in the truck when it's not running.
I did a hair over 1,600 miles this past week with them, the first 500 miles I was completely empty. The ride was compliant through the construction zones on I-75 South and rode very, very nice, though a bit bouncy. On the smooth wide open pavement on the Florida Turnpike they were incredible. I had cruise control set at 80MPH (short spring to find out if the 100 is limited to 109MPH...mine apparently is not)for most of the trip and the dips and rises in the road the Fox Shocks were great....but this is were the good news ends. I stopped and loaded up the rear of the 100 with roughly ~450LBS of fireworks and got back on the highway, I could not cruise any where near my previous speed. The dips and rises became mountains for the rear end. It was constantly bobbing up and down and if I had to take a corner or get off the whole truck would just bounce uncontrollably. If you hit a dip or rise in the road while going around a corner it's like the truck wants to bounce out from under you.
When I drove through Miami on I-95 South, the roads are full of horrible patch jobs, large (I mean huge) dips and traffic is absolutely nuts. If you aren't driving like a nut job, you will be hit. The quick lane changes, sudden stops, and 85MPH between a concrete divide and a 18-Wheeler was horrifying. It was like the rear of the truck was on its own agenda, it just did NOT want to settle down.
I wish I could say more good things about the Fox shocks. I thought it was my nose heavy 100 that was causing this issue. It seems the more weight I add in the back only makes it worse. Maybe I did get a defective set of shocks. I can't possibly imagine anybody wanting a truck that already is top heavy and over-weight ride so mushy. Everybody that rides in it (even people that know nothing about cars) say it feels a bit loose back there.
In short, I'm not happy with the Fox 2.0's. It's almost like Fox took the shock off a JK and put a different mount on it. It's way to soft, it can't handle the weight, and certainly doesn't belong on a truck like mine. If you have a stock truck, I bet they would be great. I just need a stiffer shock that can handle my driving style (a little faster than most) and the weight of the rig.
I did a hair over 1,600 miles this past week with them, the first 500 miles I was completely empty. The ride was compliant through the construction zones on I-75 South and rode very, very nice, though a bit bouncy. On the smooth wide open pavement on the Florida Turnpike they were incredible. I had cruise control set at 80MPH (short spring to find out if the 100 is limited to 109MPH...mine apparently is not)for most of the trip and the dips and rises in the road the Fox Shocks were great....but this is were the good news ends. I stopped and loaded up the rear of the 100 with roughly ~450LBS of fireworks and got back on the highway, I could not cruise any where near my previous speed. The dips and rises became mountains for the rear end. It was constantly bobbing up and down and if I had to take a corner or get off the whole truck would just bounce uncontrollably. If you hit a dip or rise in the road while going around a corner it's like the truck wants to bounce out from under you.
When I drove through Miami on I-95 South, the roads are full of horrible patch jobs, large (I mean huge) dips and traffic is absolutely nuts. If you aren't driving like a nut job, you will be hit. The quick lane changes, sudden stops, and 85MPH between a concrete divide and a 18-Wheeler was horrifying. It was like the rear of the truck was on its own agenda, it just did NOT want to settle down.
I wish I could say more good things about the Fox shocks. I thought it was my nose heavy 100 that was causing this issue. It seems the more weight I add in the back only makes it worse. Maybe I did get a defective set of shocks. I can't possibly imagine anybody wanting a truck that already is top heavy and over-weight ride so mushy. Everybody that rides in it (even people that know nothing about cars) say it feels a bit loose back there.
In short, I'm not happy with the Fox 2.0's. It's almost like Fox took the shock off a JK and put a different mount on it. It's way to soft, it can't handle the weight, and certainly doesn't belong on a truck like mine. If you have a stock truck, I bet they would be great. I just need a stiffer shock that can handle my driving style (a little faster than most) and the weight of the rig.
Thanks Nick for the update.
I have a heavy truck...rear aux tank 40+ gal and slee bumper. I am going to get rid of the 863s for Slee Heavys and I would love to ditch the OME shocks. I have never liked them on any truck I have owned way to stiff.
I have a heavy truck...rear aux tank 40+ gal and slee bumper. I am going to get rid of the 863s for Slee Heavys and I would love to ditch the OME shocks. I have never liked them on any truck I have owned way to stiff.
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Onur told me you said hey last night while working on his rear brakes. I hope all is well!
I never thought I would say this about a high quality made in the USA shock (Fox). But I would not go with them with a truck as heavy as yours. I would consider the ProFenders though, I have them on the front of my truck and cannot get over how nice they ride. Kenny has them on the rear (with drawers, BIOR bumper, and a full spare) and they ride incredible as well. No problem with the weight. For the money, the Profenders are incredible. I ran them very hard at GSMTR on the gravel roads and I was blown away by them. Not a single complaint about them. I am very picky about the ride quality. I do go back and forth and sometimes contradict myself but as I keep putting miles on my shock setup I get a much better idea and what setup I would prefer. I am thinking of pulling the Fox's off and picking up another set of the profenders for the rear.
OK, now you've got me wondering...
I put the Fox 2.0's on a week and a half ago. Didn't drive the rig much for a few days, then installed Super Pro Poly bushings in the steering rack (tight!), removed the rear air bags, and put extended sway bar links in back. Running OEM springs with spacer in back, and OEM T-bars up front. TJM T-3 (no winch) and step sliders, otherwise mostly stock with 295/75/16's.
Long story short, I have a VSC engagement that I can replicate on a freeway interchange over 50% of the time, even after a ECU reset and zero-point calibration.
Even though I didn't disconnect anything with the steering wheel or steering angle sensor, I was thinking that might have been the cause because I wiggled the steering rack around while changing bushings.
However, the interchange is a 180 left hand turn, nicely banked, somewhat of a decreasing radius, first 90 deg. downhill, last 90 uphill. Speed limit is 25 MPH, but I routinely take this at 45 MPH plus in all my cars, including the 100. Now, when accelerating out of the last curve, headed up hill, turning left, banked left, the DS rear comes up A LOT, and the PS front noses down. I'm wondering if that is enough to fool the yaw sensor into thinking that the truck is losing traction and "going over". This is where the VSC engages every time. NEVER did this before. All but the last time this happened (3 out of 6 runs) the ABS locks on the PS front wheel and the throttle is cut. On the last time, I got warning light, beeps, but I couldn't discern any braking.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/showpost.php?p=8644579&postcount=17
I'm wondering if super-soft long shocks could contribute to this? I've gone in roundabouts as fast as I could, both directions, and can't replicate it on flat ground. Can't get it to do it anywhere else but on that one interchange - fast, tight, banked, down-then-up, accelerating.
Anyone else had VSC activations on dry, twisty pavement they never had before? Am I barking up the wrong tree here? They ARE definitely floaty, and in a tight, banked turn that rear corner DOES come up...
I may have to throw the OEM's back on. Thank goodness I drilled them holes...
What's the verdict on ProFenders? Seems this thread went Fox all of a sudden.