MAF's shackle reversal kit for FJ60/62

[Spook50]

Has anyone done this? I've been told a shackle reversal is a good idea on an SOA'd rig, so I've been looking at my options. Looks like it has to be welded, and I'll still have to order greasable front spring pins and shackle pins (for the kit's "shackles").

Anyone who's done this on a wagon notice any difference in road manners and handling on/off road? Good? Bad?

 

[2badfjs]

your gonna have to lift the rear with

a taller spring.
i think th s/r will add like three inches up front.
top that with stock springs,you end up with a 7-9 inch lift up front.
thats alot of lift!!

i have absolutly no issues with my SOA 60's steering(stock) with all pro high steer set up.
hope that helps

 

[Spook50]

a taller spring.
i think th s/r will add like three inches up front.
top that with stock springs,you end up with a 7-9 inch lift up front.
thats alot of lift!!

i have absolutly no issues with my SOA 60's steering(stock) with all pro high steer set up.
hope that helps

MAF claims only 1.5" of lift up front with their kit, which (if true) is good cause then I can just compensate for that with longer rear shackles.

I'm figuring 7-8"" of total lift when all is said and done with the SR, add-a-leafs giving my springs (which are FLAT) a bit better arch, and the SOA. Might even look high on 35s (my tire size goal), which is okay cause that'll just give me good articulation

I take it your rig has a shackle reversal?

 

[Tapage]

I have already installed a MAF SR kit in my TLC, maybe 4 years ago. The ride of the rig is other thing after SR .. very smooth.

Certanly you need to compensate the new lift ( about 1.5" ) in front, with extended shackles in rear or more lifted springs. Actually I have 37" MTR in my TLC with SO Shackle Reversal and OMEs 2.5" ,, with enought space to drive 38.5" or 39" I mean.

 

[2badfjs]

no s/r

MAF claims only 1.5" of lift up front with their kit, which (if true) is good cause then I can just compensate for that with longer rear shackles.

I'm figuring 7-8"" of total lift when all is said and done with the SR, add-a-leafs giving my springs (which are FLAT) a bit better arch, and the SOA. Might even look high on 35s (my tire size goal), which is okay cause that'll just give me good articulation

I take it your rig has a shackle reversal?

i guess thats right, ijust looked in their cataloge.
i dont know why i was thinking they lifted that much(my bad)

i'm runnin stock shackles,stock springs with a-a-l's
great flex/articulation with this set up
also runnin 35's
would look really good with 37's

 

[BarnacleBob]

call me a noob but what exactly is done in a shackle reveral and why? most of the stuff talked about ive figured out so far but this one still eludes me..... any hints?

 

[2badfjs]

who lives in a pinapple under the sea......

call me a noob but what exactly is done in a shackle reveral and why? most of the stuff talked about ive figured out so far but this one still eludes me..... any hints?

barniclebob nooooobie..................

welcome..

what a s/r does : is it changes the pivot point of the front springs to be like the rear spring.
pivoting from the front of the spring so it will swing back when compressed.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

I don't know about an SOA setup, but from what I have read, the shackles do much more good out front. The way the suspension was engineered, the shackles up front keep the front end of the truck up during braking, and down during acceleration. Also, in corners, the weight is transferred more effectively when the shackles are up front. That is my opinion and also why I will not get the shackle reversal kit.

I have the article if you want me to dig it up...

 

[RredFJ40]

Here's the article, by the esteemed Jim C. found right here on IH8MUD!

http://www.ih8mud.com/tech/shackle-reason.php

 

[LuvenMud15]

Im glad this topic came up. I run 33'' TSL's which rub up front when the truck is articulating. Would it be a good idea to do a SR even if my truck is still SUA? I have OME (heavy) springs and no extended shackles in the rear.
thanks,
mark

 

[Spook50]

Here's a question I didn't think to ask, though I guess it should've been obvious given the timing that I'm doing this; would the SR be likely to cause any negative effects on a stock SUA suspension? It'll still be probably close to a year before I do the SOA, so it'd be riding on stock suspension for a while...

 

[Mace]

Spook, when you do a SR on a SU rig you are just making a nice rockfinder.. Leave the shackles in the conventional place until you do the SO and then do the SR yourself.. If you can do a SO you can do a SR..

BTW, in a SO config the axle will move forward with a SR during articulation. not backwards..

Additionally, the SR kinda forces you in to having a long travel DS...

So add that in to the prices....

 

[85CruiserGuy]

I put the BDS 2.5 springs on the Cruiser,even tho it seemed to be closer to 3.5 then 2.5,but in doing so it caused a rather heavy rake toward the front,so I put on apair of 8" shackles on the frt.
That leveled it out,but it made the truck drive like a go-cart,way to much positive camber.
Hence the need for a SR,fixed the camber problem , rides great ,handles as good as it did with stock springs.I also moved the axle forward about 1.5" concerned about ramming the driveshaft into the Tfer.No problems so far

 

[Steve-O]

call me a noob but what exactly is done in a shackle reveral and why? most of the stuff talked about ive figured out so far but this one still eludes me..... any hints?

Here ya go.

 

[Tapage]

Im glad this topic came up. I run 33'' TSL's which rub up front when the truck is articulating. Would it be a good idea to do a SR even if my truck is still SUA? I have OME (heavy) springs and no extended shackles in the rear.
thanks,
mark

if you thought that lift about 1.5" in the front you need to compensate ir in the rear .. maybe you can use your stock shackles in rear, but you want drive an TLC with the launch specs .. !

Front more lifted than rear .. ? or maybe you can compensate it with more lifted springs .. trust me SR is a great option ( apart I believe in SR from MAF )

 

[LuvenMud15]

if you thought that lift about 1.5" in the front you need to compensate ir in the rear .. maybe you can use your stock shackles in rear, but you want drive an TLC with the launch specs .. !

Front more lifted than rear .. ? or maybe you can compensate it with more lifted springs .. trust me SR is a great option ( apart I believe in SR from MAF )

thanks for the reply, could I compensate for the rear with longer shackles in the rear and stock OME shackles in the front?

 

[Tapage]

thanks for the reply, could I compensate for the rear with longer shackles in the rear and stock OME shackles in the front?

MAF SR kit comes with special shackles to use in front configuration, you can sell your OME shackles ( as me ) and buy new one longers to compensate the lift in rear configuration.

 

[Spook50]

MAF SR kit comes with special shackles to use in front configuration, you can sell your OME shackles ( as me ) and buy new one longers to compensate the lift in rear configuration.

Your rig is sprung over, isn't it? Did you do the SR the same time you did the SOA?

 

[Tapage]

Your rig is sprung over, isn't it? Did you do the SR the same time you did the SOA?

right now I have SO conversion, but I install the SR kit, about 3 years ago, with SU ( stock ) system. Than, I have all points of view .. and I thought is a real upgrade.

 

[Mace]

Tapage, you fixed your camber issue with the SR conversion..

You think that it was better than getting a Spring lift and running shorter shackles to return your caster to proper specs???