Want to know what's better for my 88 Toyota pick up. I drive it more than I play. I'm not rich but it's worth paying out that much for it I will get it. I no a lil about stuff but not a whole lot I got a guy that is teaching me. So should I go with a IFS or a straight axel. The dumb ass kid I bought the truck off of he just but a 3 inch body lift and big ass tires on it. Never geared it or anything and now I got and trying to do everything right. I don't know a whole lot and that's why I'm coming to u guys for help. give ideas on anything U want I listen
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I'm assuming the truck is stock except for the body lift, so I'm going to go from there. I am also going ot assume that you want to remove the body lift. Do you know what size tire you would like to run?
What type of playing do you do? What is your geographic location? This will help decide if you should stay IFS or convert to a solid axle. Both options have their strong points!
What type of playing do you do? What is your geographic location? This will help decide if you should stay IFS or convert to a solid axle. Both options have their strong points!
i'm with creeper, where are you? and what do you do? i like my ifs because i hit corners like i drive a race car. think about what you're going to want to do with this rig and go from there. search and ask ?'s later
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Sorry you had a bad first experience here on mud. Take some time and become familiar with the flow of things on here. The advanced Search option is your best friend. As well as the FAQ's.
I'm with the other two guys, need a little more info.
If you're gonna leave the tires on, save your money for a re-gear and do suspension later. IFS offers a good drive and ride. SAS is not a bad ride, but its not as comfy as IFS. Unless you plan on doing some serious wheeling, I don't see the point in doing an SAS. There are tons of options out there, everything from Total Chaos high dollar kits down to ball joint spacers for $100.00.
Do some searching around and look at some pics. Check out the Readers Rides thread in this forum (just above this thread).
Sorry you had a bad first experience here on mud. Take some time and become familiar with the flow of things on here. The advanced Search option is your best friend. As well as the FAQ's.I'm with the other two guys, need a little more info.
If you're gonna leave the tires on, save your money for a re-gear and do suspension later. IFS offers a good drive and ride. SAS is not a bad ride, but its not as comfy as IFS. Unless you plan on doing some serious wheeling, I don't see the point in doing an SAS. There are tons of options out there, everything from Total Chaos high dollar kits down to ball joint spacers for $100.00.
Do some searching around and look at some pics. Check out the Readers Rides thread in this forum (just above this thread).
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I like to mud and a lil rock climbing bit not a whole lot just once and while and I like in Oklahoma. And yes I would like to rid of the body lift
You might consider looking at the LC Engineering website. They offer replacement body bushings which will get you back to stock height on the body bushings. I'm not sure if Marlin Crawler offers the bushings as well but they are also a great dealer for these vehicles.
As already mentioned, if you lower the body then you need to decide whether or not the tires are going to work. What size tires are on the truck now?
As already mentioned, if you lower the body then you need to decide whether or not the tires are going to work. What size tires are on the truck now?
Well, unlike a few others, I have enough information based on the above. Stick with a basic IFS lift. If you played more frequently, and played on the rocks, and you had a huge wad of cash, then go solid axle. A solid axle swap will set you back easy over a grand. Pay somebody to do the swap for you, and you are over two grand. I suspect the blue book on your truck is nowhere close to that.
Oh, and those 80's boys were a bit rough on you. Welcome to the kinder and gentler side of MUD. Just watch your grammar and spelling.
Text speak doesn't go over well here, and we like whole sentences.
been there done that, please what ever you do stay off chat, those guys are 100 times worse than the 80's guys. i also agree with pappy, do not get sucked into mods you do not need.
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Well I was born knowing all this s***. So that's why came here to ask questions. F*** those guys I didn't know. I use to have another 88 pick up I just f***d up. And now I got another one I just want to do everything right this time, so it looks and performs right. I bought it with brand new 32 11.50 on it I think the brand is mud claw or somthing like that. I got a guy that have his own shop. And all he does is work on Toyotas, so he's showing me a few things. And he doesn't charge me much to do anything to it. Like I said don't know much so that's why I came to u guys. And also thanks too all not being jacks to me. And the biggest tire I would like to run is maybe a 35, but idk I would like to just stick with a 33 idk haven't made my mind up, if I knew how to put pictures on here I would show u guys what I got to work with. Its just a plain 88 Toyota 4x4, nothing done to it but a body lift and big tires. And what I want to do to it is make it look good, sound good and beat all my buds in mudding. If I left anything out let me no. I want to put 6000 to 10000 in too it and that's my limit. Any ideas on the motor. I want only a 4 banger nothing bigger but is there anything I could do to make more powerful? If I sound dumb let me know to. I can take the bs
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Thats one hell of a budget. The 32s will fit without the body lift. Lock the rear go have fun with it.
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I concur with Pappy an Toy4XFun, don't mess with SFA unless you really mean business; especially for a daily driver that see some fun on the side, IFS makes for a smoother ride on the road. Offroad, I would wager that most of the IFS haters out there are either serious posers, or serious crawlers.
As far as lifts go, there are all manner of fine options out there and they are very affordable. A high-end kit with new leaves for the rear, bushings, shackles, and ball-joint spacers for the front.
The early IFS system is pretty nice because you can get a decent lift out of it for very little money, and a little elbow grease. Crank the torsion bars, fix the offset with some spacers, and you can get a very nice setup for basically driveway time.
It's also worth mentioning that there is a differential drop option when dealing with IFS, where the differential assembly is lowered by a reinforcing structure. If the person using this lift knows what they're doing, and couples it with a good a-arm extension and other lift add-ons, it's useful; however, one made poorly is the equivalent to jamming a keel down between the tires, and inviting it to snag on rocks and dirt. Generally, these are advised against.
As far as lifts go, there are all manner of fine options out there and they are very affordable. A high-end kit with new leaves for the rear, bushings, shackles, and ball-joint spacers for the front.
The early IFS system is pretty nice because you can get a decent lift out of it for very little money, and a little elbow grease. Crank the torsion bars, fix the offset with some spacers, and you can get a very nice setup for basically driveway time.
It's also worth mentioning that there is a differential drop option when dealing with IFS, where the differential assembly is lowered by a reinforcing structure. If the person using this lift knows what they're doing, and couples it with a good a-arm extension and other lift add-ons, it's useful; however, one made poorly is the equivalent to jamming a keel down between the tires, and inviting it to snag on rocks and dirt. Generally, these are advised against.
. i still talk to the guys in TNT.