LHD vs RHD resale difference (1 Viewer)

[White Stripe]

I've had a rhd for almost 2 years. Drive thrus are easy. I don't go backwards I just lean across. You people make it seem like it's the end of the world.


It takes 2-3 days to get used to the wiper vs blinker stalk. It's not any harder than switching between my 5 cars and trying to remember where a switch or knob is.

I'm sure I would get used to it, I just got a kick out of myself hitting the wipers. The change to RHD is not really an obstacle for me im afraid of. I'm just stating the difference in prices I personally see. I was very close to buying a RHD diesel 80 for myself but it just never worked out. I wanted a 80 as a daily driver-not so much a toy-and was worried getting parts would take to long. I also noticed getting 1fz parts is probably almost as difficult. I ended up with a LS swapped 80 and I can get LS parts at any parts store. Once the swap is done replacement parts are cheap and easy to get, it starts immediately in the cold, and it's very quiet unless I get on it.

 

[Dusten]

I'm sure I would get used to it, I just got a kick out of myself hitting the wipers. The change to RHD is not really an obstacle for me im afraid of. I'm just stating the difference in prices I personally see. I was very close to buying a RHD diesel 80 for myself but it just never worked out. I wanted a 80 as a daily driver-not so much a toy-and was worried getting parts would take to long. I also noticed getting 1fz parts is probably almost as difficult. I ended up with a LS swapped 80 and I can get LS parts at any parts store. Once the swap is done replacement parts are cheap and easy to get, it starts immediately in the cold, and it's very quiet unless I get on it.

What 80 doesn't start in the cold?

It's 9* in this video

 

[White Stripe]

What 80 doesn't start in the cold?

It's 9* in this video

Wow impressive. Looks like it runs well. I hung out a lot at 8k-12k feet or more elevation so it got pretty cold. I'm in a warmer climate now, so I'm not as worried about it. If you have a water pump or something come apart how long does it take to get a new one? I prefer not to rely on land cruiser shops for a daily driver as they can be few and far between.

 

[Devils Paw 80]

I'd say you're out of your mind

Come over to washington and compare prices

My 1991 hdj81 with no lockers and 145k miles was 23k. You think a 91 with a 3fe is gonna pull 20k. Gtfo

I was under the assumption that we were comparing 80's with similar drivetrains.

A LHD diesel 80 will cost more than a RHD diesel 80 because it's less commonly available in the US and has a more broad based appeal.

 

[jayp2]

Wow impressive. Looks like it runs well. I hung out a lot at 8k-12k feet or more elevation so it got pretty cold. I'm in a warmer climate now, so I'm not as worried about it. If you have a water pump or something come apart how long does it take to get a new one?

I've owned a number of diesels over the years, still have a 6.7 cummins and recently a 1HZ HZJ77 JDM

We see temps down below -25 f in winter and never had one fail to start and none have block/pan heaters

Edit, and common parts like a water pump are avail to me within 24 hrs from a LC specialist not far from me

 

[White Stripe]

I was under the assumption that we were comparing 80's with similar drivetrains.

A LHD diesel 80 will cost more than a RHD diesel 80 because it's less commonly available in the US and has a more broad based appeal.

That's the assumption I had as well.

 

[Douglas S]

I don't think diesel 80 parts are any harder to get than gas 80 parts - as in neither are "easy" to get parts for. None of it is sitting on the shelf at your local dealership or auto parts store, at least not where I live. I expect most 1HD-T parts will be easier to get in the future considering they continue to put the 1HZ in new Land Cruisers.

Comparing apples to apples (drivetrain, condition, mileage) a LHD is definitely worth more in the North American market and it's easy to see why. With that said there are whole lot more RHD 80's in good condition with low mileage than there are LHD.

 

[davidp14]

for me at least, a RHD cruiser would have to be significantly cheaper for me to be even remotely interested. Even then I'd probably be thinking about just buying it for the drivetrain. 1HDte's are cool, but not cool enough to consider driving backwards into the McDonalds window.

 

[Dusten]

I was under the assumption that we were comparing 80's with similar drivetrains.

A LHD diesel 80 will cost more than a RHD diesel 80 because it's less commonly available in the US and has a more broad based appeal.

A lhd drive diesel will cost more simply because they're so rare

In general though, people poo poo rhd regardless of drivetrain because they think they're impossible to live with.

 

[Dusten]

Wow impressive. Looks like it runs well. I hung out a lot at 8k-12k feet or more elevation so it got pretty cold. I'm in a warmer climate now, so I'm not as worried about it. If you have a water pump or something come apart how long does it take to get a new one? I prefer not to rely on land cruiser shops for a daily driver as they can be few and far between.

I do my own work. Parts are no more difficult to get than most cars Ive owned. Partsouq has things to my house in 2-3 days. A lot of parts cross up with other models(alternator is off a tercel)

 

[Dusten]

for me at least, a RHD cruiser would have to be significantly cheaper for me to be even remotely interested. Even then I'd probably be thinking about just buying it for the drivetrain. 1HDte's are cool, but not cool enough to consider driving backwards into the McDonalds window.

Why do people think you have to drive backwards through a ****ing drive through?

I lean across. It's not hard. It is no harder than a normal vehicle.

 

[javelinadave]

Coming over from Defenders I can tell you that 100% of the US drivers will buy a LHD truck and 50-60% don't care or like the idea of a RHD truck. With that said, probably a 10-15% hit on value. I drive a JDM, RHD Prado and love it.

 

[ChargedSHOTaco]

The OP offended a few RHD owners it seems.

 

[Dusten]

The OP offended a few RHD owners it seems.

People make baseless assumptions about these rigs having never owned or driven one.

I daily one and it's no different than a normal rig. Maintenance is easier. Drive thrus are a non issue. Parts aren't difficult there are tons of resources.

 

[CenTXFJ60]

This is a very interesting topic and none of us will have anything to offer except assumptions. Some based on internet research and some through actual experience. The reason I state assumptions is because of so many variables which most have been noted in above posts. There may be some out there that have experience selling both RHD and LHD models, but most are in one court or the other. That and you do need to focus on “apples to apples”. It’s a fact that a gas RHD 80 vs a LHD diesel (similar condition) are not even close. Then you have to consider original drivetrains or custom (LS swapped, Cummings etc. These done well have a positive impact on valuation.

So assuming you’re asking for like drivetrains, my assumption would be 30-45% less for a RHD with both being diesel and similar condition. Gas would be a much greater gap. Can’t find any reason why someone in the lower 48 would even consider a RHD gas cruiser (personal opinion). As a non-dealer I’ve purchased quite a few 60 series diesels, but know several folks with diesel 80’s. Focusing on Toyota drivetrains only, the way I look at it is how hard is it going to be to move this truck along should I decide to sell it. As others have stated, you’re market basket shrinks even more than 30-45%. A LHD diesel in the lower 48 will get the attention of almost 100% of folks in market for an 80/60. RHD…ehhhh…I’m guessing 15-20% of the market will consider it. And my “assumption” is you’re gonna get 55-70% the price of a LHD on the selling end. Disclaimer…my direct experience is with 60 series only.

 

[TurboDennis]

I'd say you're out of your mind

Come over to washington and compare prices

My 1991 hdj81 with no lockers and 145k miles was 23k. You think a 91 with a 3fe is gonna pull 20k. Gtfo

What does a 3fe truck has to do with the discussion? The idea here is to compare identical trucks with the only difference being RHD/LHD. How much do you think a clean, very low mileage HDJ80 (LHD) would fetch in your state? Probably at least double of what you paid (not to mention that it sounds like you overpaid for yours).

I've bought and sold 2-3 dozen 80's over the years. Both RHD and LHD. Gas and diesel. And i'll double down on what i said earlier - price difference between 2 very similar trucks with the only difference being the LHD/RHD will be 50% AT THE MINIMUM. In most cases much, much more. Again - same year, drivetrain and mileage/condition. The only exception to this might be completely trashed, sub $10k cruisers.

RHD owners in this thread are getting way to defensive and delusional about the fair market value of their trucks. RHD is the cheapest admission ticket into the diesel game. That's the only reason people in North America buy them. There's virtually no one in the market for a high end 80 that would ever consider a RHD.

Is RHD impossible to drive and get used to? No, absolutely not. I've owned and driven multiple RHD's. But it's a pain. And drive-through's is not the serious issue here. The main issue is safety. Passing people (in the opposite direction lane), and making left turns is WAY more dangerous. Getting t-boned while making a left turn at a traffic light is already one of the most common types of accidents. With RHD, the chances of this happening are increased exponentially (unless you love sitting at each left turn until the light turns red, and getting flipped/honked at all the time). And if/when you do get t-boned, your chances of serious injury/death are exponentially higher as well, since you're sitting on the side that gets hit. This is one of the reasons why a large number of insurance companies either refuse, or charge significantly more for RHD insurance.

 

[CenTXFJ60]

What does a 3fe truck has to do with the discussion? The idea here is to compare identical trucks with the only difference being RHD/LHD. How much do you think a clean, very low mileage HDJ80 (LHD) would fetch in your state? Probably at least double of what you paid (not to mention that it sounds like you overpaid for yours).

I've bought and sold 2-3 dozen 80's of the years. Both RHD and LHD. Gas and diesel. And i'll double down on what i said earlier - price difference between 2 very similar trucks with the only difference being the LHD/RHD will be 50% AT THE MINIMUM. In most cases much, much more. The only exception to this might be completely trashed, sub $10k cruisers.

RHD owners in this thread are getting way to defensive and delusional about the fair market value of their trucks. RHD is the cheapest admission ticket into the diesel crowd. That's the only reason people in North America would consider owning one. There's virtually no one in North America in the market for a high end 80 that would ever consider a RHD.

Is RHD impossible to drive and get used to? No, absolutely not. I've owned and driven multiple RHD's. But it's a pain. And drive-through's is not the serious issue here. The main issue is safety. Passing people (in the opposite direction lane), and making left turns is WAY more dangerous. Getting t-boned while making a left turn at a traffic light is already one of the most common types of accidents. With RHD, the chances of this happening are increased exponentially (unless you love sitting at each left turn until the light turns red, and getting flipped/honked at all the time. And if/when you do get t-boned, your chances of significant injury/death are exponentially higher as well, since you're sitting on the side that gets hit.

Well stated. And agree on the greater than 50% in the higher end examples. My experience is typically buying projects. I’m going for the drivetrains

 

[Racefiend]

All about where you’re selling it. My RHD cruiser gets a lot of attention in California, meanwhile, nobody cared for it in South Carolina when I bought it. I imagine in a more traditional state, a lot of folks just want a cruiser that’s ready to go, easy to adapt to. Meanwhile in a place like California, I imagine I could get away with charging MORE for it being RHD because there is a RHD drive scene here. These are just my opinions though!

CA is a special case. It's extremely expensive to import a car into this state. They are one of the few (if not the only) states that require special laboratory emissions testing to register an imported car. You have to recreate the federal EPA testing standards for a new vehicle for the year of the car you're importing. This includes things like testing overnight emissions in a hermetically sealed chamber, etc.

There used to be about a dozen laboratories, and any ARD (licensed auto shop) could make the required modifications to make it pass.

Last I checked, only 1 laboratory remained due to CA raising the laboratory license fee to some astronomical number. That lab knows they have a monopoly, and charge 5 digits for conversion and testing. They also, erroneously and illegally, claim only they can do the modifications.

The only other way to get one into the state is if it was already imported into another state, and you move into CA with it.

This makes them rare and expensive here.

 

[davidp14]

Why do people think you have to drive backwards through a f***ing drive through?

I lean across. It's not hard. It is no harder than a normal vehicle.

That was meant to be a humorous example of why not to own a rhd. But once again you got your panties in a wad.


Do people actually drive backwards into the drive thru?

 

[Douglas S]

Do people actually drive backwards into the drive thru?

I've seen it but it's not at all common. I certainly don't do it.

This thread is getting wildly off topic but I think the OP's questions is answered. RHD is worth less here, you will buy it for less and also sell it for less. I think that covers it? Nobody can seriously argue that all else equal LHD value is the same as RHD.