The unit is held by the headlight ring, which is held down by 3 screws just as you describe. I'll post up a photo and it should become clear.
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The unit is held by the headlight ring, which is held down by 3 screws just as you describe. I'll post up a photo and it should become clear.
Alright man, you are making me take off my bezel!. See how there is a groove around the headlight? That's where the headlight retainer ring fits. It's secured the same way as how a sealed beam unit is held in place. The ring sits all the way to the back of the groove, thus the slight protrusion.
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They went behind the ring. Some part of the led housing locks into the apron. In other words they don't turn freely.
We've afforded you the opportunity to clean away that buildup of grime below each headlight and underneath the bezel..
Referring to the image in your store, racer, which shows the back/rear of one of the lights, is it the single [looks like] metallic attachment surrounded by what appear to be spring loops which clocks the fixture by engaging with the headlight socket, or something else? I can see a shape at the top edge as shown that may also serve but it's too dark at that point to tell much about what it could be.
We've afforded you the opportunity to clean away that buildup of grime below each headlight and underneath the bezel..
Referring to the image in your store, racer, which shows the back/rear of one of the lights, is it the single [looks like] metallic attachment surrounded by what appear to be spring loops which clocks the fixture by engaging with the headlight socket, or something else? I can see a shape at the top edge as shown that may also serve but it's too dark at that point to tell much about what it could be.
I think you're referring to this shot? I added a couple of arrows to show the path of the cables. It's trivial connection; pretty much like plugging into a wall plug.
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That's a killer deal on LED lights! I could build harnesses with 18 ga wire in the head light circuit instead of the 14ga I use!
I will be ordering a set of these soon!
I will be ordering a set of these soon!
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@honk they lock in and do not rotate.
The new generation of LED headlights has a bulbless, projector design. The light is generated by a Cree branded LED chip directed toward the housing, which then projects the light forward. The cables in the back are secured by a series of nuts and won't rotate the electronics inside.
The older generation lights relied on having a ton of individual bulbs to boost the light output without the benefit of an integrated projector. Those don't have the optics to give you the desired effect. In addition, you might or might not like the insect-eye appearance.
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Just as a note - I had a set of led bulb conversions for the H4 housings , let them go with my Taco when I traded it off . That design was a simple bulb projecting forward which makes it really tough to control the light beam . These newer units are far better by design alone , since projecting to the rear and having the ability to tune the reflector much better . IPF and other companies are doing the same thing now with their off road lamps and seeing them work in person will remove any doubts . Only drawback , as mentioned above - is how they look on a vintage truck .
A quick question though -
What is the color temp of these led's ? Many are going to 6500k , which is far too blue to be the most effective on the road . My old fan/bulb units were 5500k , which was perfect in my opinion . Even worked excellent in the fog , despite the stock housings on the Taco and the IPF H4 lenses I use on the Cruiser .
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A quick question though -
What is the color temp of these led's ? Many are going to 6500k , which is far too blue to be the most effective on the road . My old fan/bulb units were 5500k , which was perfect in my opinion . Even worked excellent in the fog , despite the stock housings on the Taco and the IPF H4 lenses I use on the Cruiser .
Sarge
This thread is turning out to be a good tech discussion.
The color is 6000k, which is white light. I should also mention that these have an operating voltage range of 9 to 32 volts, which means it will work great on a 24v truck.
The color is 6000k, which is white light. I should also mention that these have an operating voltage range of 9 to 32 volts, which means it will work great on a 24v truck.
Nice voltage range. Though the CDN spec 40 series ran 12V headlights when the rest of the truck was 24V. The insidious center tap!
But a quick bit of wiring can convert them to 24V to keep the entire truck one voltage.
But a quick bit of wiring can convert them to 24V to keep the entire truck one voltage.
Hello Awl_TEQ,
Another Mud member (Siflersmom) clued me in to heated-lens LED headlights: Truck Lite is the brand, and the item number is 27275C (7" round). I called a local supplier (about two hours away from Calgary, so it gives you a good idea), and i'd have to pay $500 per headlight.
When it comes to voltage, electronic stuff can be quite adaptable, as i often see items rated to work from less than 12VDC to 36VDC. It may be worth your while to check.
6000k is acceptable , at least it's at the cutoff point more or less of where the blue spectrum starts to take over . True kelvin color ratings are tough with led's since their light spectrum works in sort of a different way - I've read volumes on this stuff and most of it still doesn't make clear sense . A lot of it depends on a person's vision and age - I'm half blind so every little bit helps and I don't really mind the look of those lights - love the idea of a lower amperage draw and how long they last .
I'm very curious to see some good clear night pics of the high beams at night - I usually try to do these with no flash , good saturation settings and taking the photo from about 3 tenths of a mile from a stop sign or something reflective - avoiding yellow signs .
In the past couple years , it's gotten quite easy to figure out which oncoming vehicles have led headlamps - especially if I'm on a night job working on the nation's highways . Their light pattern and color doesn't create such a blinding glare to us working out there and aren't as hard on the old eyes as those irritating hid lamps running high kelvin colors . Those higher than 6k start to lose the ability to light up our retro-reflective safety gear we're required to wear , let alone barricades and barrels . The tuner crowd running those dumb purple lamps are the worst - I can walk right out in front of them at less than 300' and they have no idea I'm there - have had some close calls when I have to push traffic off onto the shoulder to avoid equipment working on the pavement centerline . There are some states with laws against those color lamps , we're pushing as an industry to ban them nationwide as there have been some worker fatalities involving drivers that cannot see us with those lamps . Wish I could find those burst photos I took for the State engineers working that last job - had a Honda driver hit 2 barrels and seriously damaged his aero mod kit and tried to sue the state for it - he lost in court big time when the judge saw those photos . Lighting standards in the US are so lax and vague when it comes to true pattern and color , it needs to change and will help force automakers to step up to better headlamps for all of us . Same with reverse lamps , almost all the new vehicles have some of the worst I've ever seen...
Sarge
I'm very curious to see some good clear night pics of the high beams at night - I usually try to do these with no flash , good saturation settings and taking the photo from about 3 tenths of a mile from a stop sign or something reflective - avoiding yellow signs .
In the past couple years , it's gotten quite easy to figure out which oncoming vehicles have led headlamps - especially if I'm on a night job working on the nation's highways . Their light pattern and color doesn't create such a blinding glare to us working out there and aren't as hard on the old eyes as those irritating hid lamps running high kelvin colors . Those higher than 6k start to lose the ability to light up our retro-reflective safety gear we're required to wear , let alone barricades and barrels . The tuner crowd running those dumb purple lamps are the worst - I can walk right out in front of them at less than 300' and they have no idea I'm there - have had some close calls when I have to push traffic off onto the shoulder to avoid equipment working on the pavement centerline . There are some states with laws against those color lamps , we're pushing as an industry to ban them nationwide as there have been some worker fatalities involving drivers that cannot see us with those lamps . Wish I could find those burst photos I took for the State engineers working that last job - had a Honda driver hit 2 barrels and seriously damaged his aero mod kit and tried to sue the state for it - he lost in court big time when the judge saw those photos . Lighting standards in the US are so lax and vague when it comes to true pattern and color , it needs to change and will help force automakers to step up to better headlamps for all of us . Same with reverse lamps , almost all the new vehicles have some of the worst I've ever seen...
Sarge
The pics on my site were taken without flash.
Sarge,
You've got a unique perspective on vehicle lighting, for sure. For instance I'd never realized that some colors of light used as headlights would not reflect from the reflective materials used for safety markings. That alone would seem to me to prevent the light's approval for use under the national regulations by NHTSA's DOT programs.
I know that in the past DOT has been quite slow in issuing their certification (approval) for the use of new products on the roadways. Do you know at what level HID and LED lighting has been sanctified by those controlling agencies and whether such allowances are restricted as to color temperature?
It's hard to imagine that any lighting which prevented a driver from seeing roadway warnings could be approved for use, and if they are not isn't it an enforcement issue best addressed to the local, state, and/or federal policing agencies?
I mean: if you see someone using purple lights can't you just log the license number and call a cop?
I found a pic with a older bezel...
I think they stick out a little too far for my taste.
I think they stick out a little too far for my taste.
I had a hard time noticing anything other then that hideous trailer!