LC250 hybrid real MPG (5 Viewers)

[wngrog]

Jesus, not to step on anybody's toes, but the 250's MPG sucks for what you give up. I get 17-18 MPG with my 200 HE running 33" Destination AT2s.

I've never gotten more than 13 mpg out of my 200. That's crazy good mileage.

Also, you can't get them anymore. Seems like a silly comment.


Since this was bumped i looked at my daughters numbers. It's been 5000 miles since I checked. She runs regular 87.

19 mpg.

 

[Land Stalker]

I've never gotten more than 13 mpg out of my 200. That's crazy good mileage.

Also, you can't get them anymore. Seems like a silly comment.


Since this was bumped i looked at my daughters numbers. It's been 5000 miles since I checked. She runs regular 87.

19 mpg.

13 is low, even for the 200. I agree I get better than average, but 15-16 can be reasonably expected. And as I clarified, I'm speaking from the point of view of a previous gen owner. Where's the incentive? In my case, what, 1-2 mpg? Assuming 15 for most folks, 4 mpg? And a hybrid turbo 4-banger that high-rpms even fire trails? I don't see the upshot for trading in.

 

[wngrog]

Well it's not about the incentive to sell a 200 for a 250 it's more about getting a new 250/550

My 200 is heavy. 13 it is.

 

[Land Stalker]

Well it's not about the incentive to sell a 200 for a 250 it's more about getting a new 250/550

My 200 is heavy. 13 it is.

My 100 was heavy and got about the same. Weight will do it. The 200 is roughly stock.

I reckon there is actually more of a market for the 300 in the US than they figured, particularly with the success of the 250 prepping people to rethink the idea of a premium Toyota SUV.

 

[UZJ100LC]

After ditching the OEM tires for a set of 275/70r18 Toyo Open Country WLT1 snow tires I’m now below 20 MPG on the first couple tanks of gas. I was consistently 21+/- with the Michelins. Kind of a bummer.

Towed my overland trailer (2500lbs loaded) to Moab and back and only got around 14MPG. I did not reset anything while driving around the area without the trailer.

From what I can gather online this is about what the GX550 gets with a similar setup towing an overland teardrop camper. Seems the 250 engine does not like being to being too stressed.

Still a lot better than my 100 series towing my teardrop camper though.

 

[Phillyd2]

Jesus, not to step on anybody's toes, but the 250's MPG sucks for what you give up. I get 17-18 MPG with my 200 HE running 33" Destination AT2s.

I've rarely had a genuine problem with Toyota's seeming obsession for denying the US market diesel variants, but in this case... I mean, come on. I know the 250 is aimed at new LC buyers, but throw 100/200 owners a bone here... why the hell would we give up a V8 for this marginal MPG improvement? Seriously, why?

It had zero to do with MPG improvement and everything to do with Emissions. One of the earlier videos had one of their engineers accidently say the quiet part out loud.

 

[Oakleyguy]

Jesus, not to step on anybody's toes, but the 250's MPG sucks for what you give up. I get 17-18 MPG with my 200 HE running 33" Destination AT2s.

I've rarely had a genuine problem with Toyota's seeming obsession for denying the US market diesel variants, but in this case... I mean, come on. I know the 250 is aimed at new LC buyers, but throw 100/200 owners a bone here... why the hell would we give up a V8 for this marginal MPG improvement? Seriously, why?

What magic fuel are you using? My 200 gets a whopping 11-12MPG (city or hwy, doesn't matter)

 

[Corbet]

I’ll simply add more MPG data. I just returned from a spring break trip in he desert. Put 1400 miles on the truck with the 2500lb trailer behind me. Trip had plenty of two lane 65MPH HWY time. And some light wheeling mostly in 4hi on sand/dirt but some time in 4low. 275/70r18 and sliders are the only mods to the truck. 13.1 MPG overall. I’m getting 18-19 per tank around town. Still hopeful to see a bump up once summer fuel returns.

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[Rednexus]

I’ll simply add more MPG data. I just returned from a spring break trip in he desert. Put 1400 miles on the truck with the 2500lb trailer behind me. Trip had plenty of two lane 65MPH HWY time. And some light wheeling mostly in 4hi on sand/dirt but some time in 4low. 275/70r18 and sliders are the only mods to the truck. 13.1 MPG overall. I’m getting 18-19 per tank around town. Still hopeful to see a bump up once summer fuel returns.

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Computer or calculated MPG? Certainly a sweet rig/trailer combo, but I'm a bit surprised it's getting about the same MPG as my GX470 gets towing a wider and taller ~4,000# collapsible camper (11-12 mpg on the interstate going 70, about 13 mpg at 65 mph, and up to 14 mpg at 55 mph). That might just be to the turbo-4 needing to make a lot of boost to pull the camper, compared to the lumbering N/A V8 which just needs to rev a little higher on the hills.

Regardless, I definitely don't get 18-19 mpg around town - it's more like 13-14 mpg and I rarely exceed 17 mpg unloaded on the interstate. On a yearly basis a LC250 would probably use quite a bit less fuel than my GX470.

 

[Corbet]

That's off the computer. I have not taken the time to do any "corrections" as every time I pass a radar speed sign it matches my speedo display where on OEM tires I was reading faster than the signs. So I consider myself to be accurate now on my dash.

 

[Rednexus]

That's off the computer. I have not taken the time to do any "corrections" as every time I pass a radar speed sign it matches my speedo display where on OEM tires I was reading faster than the signs. So I consider myself to be accurate now on my dash.

The computer can still be a bit off as it's counting injector pulses, which aren't totally accurate. But, for my various vehicles, it's usually within 0.5-1.0 mpg of calculated numbers using actual miles actual gallons consumed. I manually-check the MPG at least a few times a year though (usually on bigger trips where a couple fill-ups a day are needed).

 

[M1911]

Jesus, not to step on anybody's toes, but the 250's MPG sucks for what you give up. I get 17-18 MPG with my 200 HE running 33" Destination AT2s.

I find that hard to believe, unless you never do any city driving. I track every fuel up in Fuelly. I’ve put 10k miles on my 2020 LX and am averaging 15.9. The best I’ve gotten was 18.7 mpg.

I put 76k miles on my 2013. My average was 14.1 mpg.

 

[Land Stalker]

I find that hard to believe, unless you never do any city driving. I track every fuel up in Fuelly. I’ve put 10k miles on my 2020 LX and am averaging 15.9. The best I’ve gotten was 18.7 mpg.

I put 76k miles on my 2013. My average was 14.1 mpg.

So you drive a slightly heavier, slightly less aerodynamic version of my truck and average around 1.5 MPG less than me. That seems to track perfectly. What exactly do you find hard to believe?

 

[Corbet]

The computer can still be a bit off as it's counting injector pulses, which aren't totally accurate. But, for my various vehicles, it's usually within 0.5-1.0 mpg of calculated numbers using actual miles actual gallons consumed. I manually-check the MPG at least a few times a year though (usually on bigger trips where a couple fill-ups a day are needed).

I’ve tracked a handful of tanks manually and found the computer to calculate my MPG at a margin of error not worth discussing.

 

[Devils Paw 80]

I’ve tracked a handful of tanks manually and found the computer to calculate my MPG at a margin of error not worth discussing.

If Subaru can accomplish this accurately I would hope Toyota can too. I've checked my Crosstrek's display MPG against fuel fill up numbers and it's been a spot on matchup at 32.5.

Compared to your 13.1 mpg for the new 250, what do you suppose your 80 would have delivered on that trip?

 

[M1911]

So you drive a slightly heavier, slightly less aerodynamic version of my truck and average around 1.5 MPG less than me. That seems to track perfectly. What exactly do you find hard to believe?

I don't believe that you are getting 17-18 mpg with 33" AT tires unless you do no city driving and you keep your highway driving at about 65 mpg. I'm sorry, but I don't believe you.

 

[W4632018]

13 is low, even for the 200. I agree I get better than average, but 15-16 can be reasonably expected. And as I clarified, I'm speaking from the point of view of a previous gen owner. Where's the incentive? In my case, what, 1-2 mpg? Assuming 15 for most folks, 4 mpg? And a hybrid turbo 4-banger that high-rpms even fire trails? I don't see the upshot for trading in.

Bro I get 17.1 on my 100% stock 200 series! Even has stock Dunlops! How are you getting 17-18 with 33’s

 

[Blackford Oakes]

Bro I get 17.1 on my 100% stock 200 series! Even has stock Dunlops! How are you getting 17-18 with 33’s

Not avg, but I've gotten 17 and change on the highway in my 2013 with 33' KO2s and a mild lift. Tailwind? I have gotten 18 in my wife's stock 200 on the highway.

 

[Corbet]

If Subaru can accomplish this accurately I would hope Toyota can too. I've checked my Crosstrek's display MPG against fuel fill up numbers and it's been a spot on matchup at 32.5.

Compared to your 13.1 mpg for the new 250, what do you suppose your 80 would have delivered on that trip?

9-10 MPG with the 80. That truck is speed sensitive. 70 MPH or less towing and 10, speeds over that and it starts dropping fast. It gets 13-14 otherwise. And for the record it did occasionally get 18MPG HWY stock. Kind of comes down to, it takes a certain amount of energy to move this much mass. Can't fight physics on that one. I wish the LC-250 battery was larger. Fill the useless storage spaces with more battery and let the hybrid store more energy. Adds more weight and maybe the current capacity represents a point of diminishing return? But those cubbies are near useless.

Overall I'm still super happy with the truck. I'm just bitter at Toyota over the MPG. They released a 27 HWY figure in initial marketing. Backing down to 25. That gave me the illusion of some honesty at time of purchase. Most I ever saw was 23 with the stock tires. I know some will see 25. I bet there are in 1958's with the smaller tires, at sea level, light feet, and only on occasion. Maybe summer gas blends will return some efficiency. My sales guy with the iForceMax Tundra claims a huge drop in the winter.

I posted this before but I get better MPG now in normal driving mode than I do in ECO with the larger heavier LT275/70R18 tires. I've got 10638 miles on the truck with over 2000 of that towing. By the time this thing is a year old it will have over 10,000 miles of towing on it. Little road trip is upcoming.

 

[Specialeyes]

Jesus, not to step on anybody's toes, but the 250's MPG sucks for what you give up. I get 17-18 MPG with my 200 HE running 33" Destination AT2s.

I've rarely had a genuine problem with Toyota's seeming obsession for denying the US market diesel variants, but in this case... I mean, come on. I know the 250 is aimed at new LC buyers, but throw 100/200 owners a bone here... why the hell would we give up a V8 for this marginal MPG improvement? Seriously, why?

Your figures sound awfully generous.

I’ve had two 200’s. One with a small bilstein lift and 33” wild peaks that averaged 10.5 mpg. I could get it to up to 14 on a highway run with cruise control set to 65. The 200 I have now is bone stock, still on OE dunlops and that setup has netted me an average of 14 while reaching 17 on the same highway cruise control run.