Just need to add a second trailer with the generator on it.
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A clean sign wave gasoline generator would take a week to charge a truck battery to about 20 miles.
Okay so I’ll throw my two cents into this race. As said before I sold my 2011 built out 200 Series
for a 2022 power wagon. Let me start out by saying i’m a die hard Land Cruiser fanboy. I’ve had six of them I love everything about them and I will get another one one day.
We flew out to Portland and drove it back across the country making lots of stops across the country was well worth it. Did Yellowstone and the Rocky’s. Saw the family that bought my 200. You can see the build on my Instagram @jrmudder
Switching over to the power wagon was a childhood dream of mine. I even had the poster of it in my room. I truly do not regret making the switch this is been the best vehicles I have own. I have every creature comfort I could want and then some. the truck is basically a Jeep Rubicon but in a full size truck. The power is great it shifts smoothly. Now I did get the top of the line. I got everything but sunroof, Ram boxes, and dual alternators. I do miss certain aspects of the cruiser. But I know long term I will be more happy in this truck. I highly recommend a power wagon.
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for a 2022 power wagon. Let me start out by saying i’m a die hard Land Cruiser fanboy. I’ve had six of them I love everything about them and I will get another one one day.
We flew out to Portland and drove it back across the country making lots of stops across the country was well worth it. Did Yellowstone and the Rocky’s. Saw the family that bought my 200. You can see the build on my Instagram @jrmudder
Switching over to the power wagon was a childhood dream of mine. I even had the poster of it in my room. I truly do not regret making the switch this is been the best vehicles I have own. I have every creature comfort I could want and then some. the truck is basically a Jeep Rubicon but in a full size truck. The power is great it shifts smoothly. Now I did get the top of the line. I got everything but sunroof, Ram boxes, and dual alternators. I do miss certain aspects of the cruiser. But I know long term I will be more happy in this truck. I highly recommend a power wagon.
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jaco11b
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I’ll chime in as a current owner of an ‘18 Power Wagon as well as a ‘21 Heritage Edition.
I own an overland/offroad parts and accessories company, which leads us to spending about 40-60 nights a year camping. We do multiple long trips a year too. Two weeks in Baja, a week in Montana, a week in Idaho etc. This leads us to both rigs serving a different purpose.
The Power Wagon is our vehicle for longer trips as it is unarguably better than the LC in two areas-cargo capacity and inside living capability. We have a GFC on the PW, with an interior bed build that includes an L-shaped bench for a sitting area that doubles as storage compartments, as well as an Elements fridge on a slide. A 2-Banger Riversmith fly rod holder lives on top of the GFC, and a Rigd carrier sits on the rear with a plethora of Last US Bag co bags on the 37” spare.
The LC on the other hand does have many advantages, the main one being peace of mind. We had the PW and our last company LC, a built 2016 with us in Baja last year. I would always be cautious and looking for signs of something that was going to go wrong with the PW. I never once had that thought or concern with the LC. For me, that comes from the communities of both vehicles and not necessarily personal experience. The Hemi tick is a real thing with these motors, and I know of no such recurring issue with the 5.7.
I really think it comes down to your use. I know my wife certainly likes spending a week+ in the PW more than she would in a RTT on the LC. It’s my wife and I as well as two large dogs so kids aren’t a factor yet.
We love the PW, have had it about a year and have had no issues in the 20k+ adventure miles we have put on it. We just picked up our ‘21 HE Monday, as we traded in our ‘16 for a new Tundra for the company fleet.
I’ll attach some pics below of the PW, our new LC, and our last built LC. Please let me know if you have any questions, or if you need parts for whatever you decide on!
I own an overland/offroad parts and accessories company, which leads us to spending about 40-60 nights a year camping. We do multiple long trips a year too. Two weeks in Baja, a week in Montana, a week in Idaho etc. This leads us to both rigs serving a different purpose.
The Power Wagon is our vehicle for longer trips as it is unarguably better than the LC in two areas-cargo capacity and inside living capability. We have a GFC on the PW, with an interior bed build that includes an L-shaped bench for a sitting area that doubles as storage compartments, as well as an Elements fridge on a slide. A 2-Banger Riversmith fly rod holder lives on top of the GFC, and a Rigd carrier sits on the rear with a plethora of Last US Bag co bags on the 37” spare.
The LC on the other hand does have many advantages, the main one being peace of mind. We had the PW and our last company LC, a built 2016 with us in Baja last year. I would always be cautious and looking for signs of something that was going to go wrong with the PW. I never once had that thought or concern with the LC. For me, that comes from the communities of both vehicles and not necessarily personal experience. The Hemi tick is a real thing with these motors, and I know of no such recurring issue with the 5.7.
I really think it comes down to your use. I know my wife certainly likes spending a week+ in the PW more than she would in a RTT on the LC. It’s my wife and I as well as two large dogs so kids aren’t a factor yet.
We love the PW, have had it about a year and have had no issues in the 20k+ adventure miles we have put on it. We just picked up our ‘21 HE Monday, as we traded in our ‘16 for a new Tundra for the company fleet.
I’ll attach some pics below of the PW, our new LC, and our last built LC. Please let me know if you have any questions, or if you need parts for whatever you decide on!
jaco11b
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I’ll chime in as a current owner of an ‘18 Power Wagon as well as a ‘21 Heritage Edition.
I own an overland/offroad parts and accessories company, which leads us to spending about 40-60 nights a year camping. We do multiple long trips a year too. Two weeks in Baja, a week in Montana, a week in Idaho etc. This leads us to both rigs serving a different purpose.
The Power Wagon is our vehicle for longer trips as it is unarguably better than the LC in two areas-cargo capacity and inside living capability. We have a GFC on the PW, with an interior bed build that includes an L-shaped bench for a sitting area that doubles as storage compartments, as well as an Elements fridge on a slide. A 2-Banger Riversmith fly rod holder lives on top of the GFC, and a Rigd carrier sits on the rear with a plethora of Last US Bag co bags on the 37” spare.
The LC on the other hand does have many advantages, the main one being peace of mind. We had the PW and our last company LC, a built 2016 with us in Baja last year. I would always be cautious and looking for signs of something that was going to go wrong with the PW. I never once had that thought or concern with the LC. For me, that comes from the communities of both vehicles and not necessarily personal experience. The Hemi tick is a real thing with these motors, and I know of no such recurring issue with the 5.7.
I really think it comes down to your use. I know my wife certainly likes spending a week+ in the PW more than she would in a RTT on the LC. It’s my wife and I as well as two large dogs so kids aren’t a factor yet.
We love the PW, have had it about a year and have had no issues in the 20k+ adventure miles we have put on it. We just picked up our ‘21 HE Monday, as we traded in our ‘16 for a new Tundra for the company fleet.
I’ll attach some pics below of the PW, our new LC, and our last built LC. Please let me know if you have any questions, or if you need parts for whatever you decide on!
I own an overland/offroad parts and accessories company, which leads us to spending about 40-60 nights a year camping. We do multiple long trips a year too. Two weeks in Baja, a week in Montana, a week in Idaho etc. This leads us to both rigs serving a different purpose.
The Power Wagon is our vehicle for longer trips as it is unarguably better than the LC in two areas-cargo capacity and inside living capability. We have a GFC on the PW, with an interior bed build that includes an L-shaped bench for a sitting area that doubles as storage compartments, as well as an Elements fridge on a slide. A 2-Banger Riversmith fly rod holder lives on top of the GFC, and a Rigd carrier sits on the rear with a plethora of Last US Bag co bags on the 37” spare.
The LC on the other hand does have many advantages, the main one being peace of mind. We had the PW and our last company LC, a built 2016 with us in Baja last year. I would always be cautious and looking for signs of something that was going to go wrong with the PW. I never once had that thought or concern with the LC. For me, that comes from the communities of both vehicles and not necessarily personal experience. The Hemi tick is a real thing with these motors, and I know of no such recurring issue with the 5.7.
I really think it comes down to your use. I know my wife certainly likes spending a week+ in the PW more than she would in a RTT on the LC. It’s my wife and I as well as two large dogs so kids aren’t a factor yet.
We love the PW, have had it about a year and have had no issues in the 20k+ adventure miles we have put on it. We just picked up our ‘21 HE Monday, as we traded in our ‘16 for a new Tundra for the company fleet.
I’ll attach some pics below of the PW, our new LC, and our last built LC. Please let me know if you have any questions, or if you need parts for whatever you decide on!
I've owned both and I can agree with the fact that I was always concerned about the PW and waiting for the inevitable failure. It might be foolish of myself and the rest of us, but I have never once questioned reliability/durability/dependability with any of our Toyota products. Fill it up with gas, change the oil, rotate the tires, fill it up with gas, fill it up with gas, fill it up.......
bloc
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Great perspective.
Can a tundra be outfitted like a PW and have best of both worlds?
Also what wheels were on the 16 200?
Edit: found the wheel ID. Fifteen52 Traverse HD
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Yes but the PW is a whole different league IMO. 3/4 ton chassis, solid axles, front and rear locker, artic-u-link radius arms. They will swallow 37s and 40s aren't that hard.
I also had the opportunity to crawl around @EvergreenOffroad 's 22 Tundra and PW. Apples to Oranges IMO
bloc
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Tire size wasn’t even on my radar.. good point.
jaco11b
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A lot went into the tundra to fit 35s and it still rubs. We put 37s on the PW with stock suspension. PW was an ‘18 we got used and it was about 5k cheaper than the Tundra too. Tundra lacks the front locker and swaybar disconnect as well. Tundra did have some software issues in the first few hundred miles but was remedied with a software update. Tundra is definitely better driving on the street and is sportier. Below is the current state of the Tundra-a great platform that we are still figuring out!
You’d gain a thousand pounds and lose all the stuff that makes it a power wagon and able to flex like this: articulink radius arms, disconnecting sway bar and soft coils instead of leaf springs. And no front locker option on the CTD trucks.
even a power wagon with its swaybars disconnected has a low RTI score compared to a stock LC200 ( 538 vs 647 ). The PW and the CTD are physically the same dimensions so you'd still be limited to the same trails. AFAIK, ARB makes a locker for 3500s, too.
jaco11b
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Front locker isn’t really an option with 1k+lbs of torque. I’ve heard of people adding them and just demolishing the front diff with the amount of torque going to it. My long term plan is a Prospector XL, but likely going to wait a few years for that. Might even build a new PW into a PXL.
I've had both the PW on 37's and a 3500 CTD on 37's, very different trucks. That said, I took the 3500 over everything we encountered in DV but I did incur some bumper damage due to its sheer size. In some ways I preferred the diesel truck off-road. My buddy in his PXL on 40's walked over things with ease and neither of us were in 4WD 80% of the time, the larger tires, heavy stable weight, diesel torque and rear lockers in 2WD were more than enough to crawl over most obstacles.
So got mine back from the builder. I’ve been very impressed by the the truck so far. This weekend I’m going to ATR so we’ll see how it does at Windrock. I’ll report back on its first real off roading trip.
