Is my wheel spindle worn out?

[lbrillhart]

I'm rebuilding my front wheels. When I went to tap the brand new inner wheel bearing onto the right spindle it just slid all the way on. There isn't much play but the race will rotate on the spindle. This is contrary to the left side which took a little force to get the new bearing on.

I'm thinking this is bad. Any cheap solutions or do I need a new spindle?

Thanks for the help!

 

[projektdotnet]

PICS! seriously a good pic is worth 1000 words online

 

[Poser]

I'm rebuilding my front wheels. When I went to tap the brand new inner wheel bearing onto the right spindle it just slid all the way on. There isn't much play but the race will rotate on the spindle. This is contrary to the left side which took a little force to get the new bearing on.

I'm thinking this is bad. Any cheap solutions or do I need a new spindle?

Thanks for the help!

If you need a drum brake spindle you should not have a problem finding one in the WANTED section. You should not have a problem finding one.

 

[grant5127]

a procedure commonly used in the auto repair industry called "Staking" or bearing race "Stake".......has been known to save many hubs and spindle lives....

 

[Coolerman]

How much slop is in the bearing when torqued to spec? Was the spindle scored where the race was? I would not worry too much if it's not scored and the play is in spec, however as was pointed out, spindles are easy to find and cheap.

 

[lbrillhart]

Ok, here are a few pics. First off we're talking about a '76 FJ40 with disc brakes.

 

[lbrillhart]

And here it is again. The new bearing just resting on the skinny part of the spindle. About to be "pressed" on.

 

[lbrillhart]

Now I'm jiggling the bearing onto the spindle. When I get it squared up it starts to slide right on.

 

[lbrillhart]

And there it is all the way on without any force. There isn't much clearance between the bearing and spindle, but if I give the rollers a good spin they go around along with the inner race.

 

[lbrillhart]

And lastly a shot of the spindle. It's pretty smooth, maybe just a bit of scoring from the old bearing. I disassembled everything back in the fall so I don't remember if the old bearing fell off or not.

 

[lbrillhart]

So after taking the pics and reading your responses I decided to stake the spindle. I should have taken pics of that too, but got excited and just pressed the bearing on. It took a good bit of force and snugged right up so I'm thinking it should work out.

Thanks for the help!

 

[matt.mcinnes]

Question, but that bearing goes in the hub with a seal between it and the stub axle does it not, before it goes on there.

Or are you just checking the seat of the bearing to the stub axle?

You cant assemble it that way my 2c

Few photos here just remeber the inner axle oil seal was put in the wrong way around opps and the photo of the swivel hub seals are not in order they should be Metal Rubber Felt

Also there is no pic of the bearing seats been fitted into the hub.

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j212/FJ40_LOCKED_N_LOADED/Front Hub Assembley/?start=all

Also pics are not in order on Photobucket but are numbered in order start at 570 finish 624

 

[tucker74]

You kinda lost me there too - you seat the bearing races in the actual hub, grease the bearings, install a hub seal and the whole assembly with the rotor goes on the spindle with both bearings. They should slide on the spindle with very little effort, you seat them with the spindle nuts (with both installed) -

Tucker

 

[tlcruiser66]

Your doing a nice job rebuilding your axle. But I think Matt and Tucker are right, I hope you didn't press your bearing directly onto the hub.

Kevin

 

[matt.mcinnes]

Your doing a nice job rebuilding your axle. But I think Matt and Tucker are right, I hope you didn't press your bearing directly onto the hub.

Kevin

I'm sure he has a bearing puller if he did, not the end of the world PM me if you need any help.

Regards Matt

 

[lbrillhart]

Bearing in the hub with a seal? It's all becoming clear now. Ok, so I'll pull the bearing I staked on, put it in the hub with the seal and then slide the hub onto the spindle.

 

[tucker74]

Bearing in the hub with a seal? It's all becoming clear now. Ok, so I'll pull the bearing I staked on, put it in the hub with the seal and then slide the hub onto the spindle.

Yep - check this link out

Tucker

 

[pbgbottle]

i was wondering what everybody was talking about. i read this a few days ago .and when they mentioned looking for a new spindle ,and staking it , i was lost . i have never checked if the bearing spun on the spindle .just shoved them in the hub then the seal and shoved it back on the spindle . i was thinking i missed something . glad it's all cleared up . .

 

[FJ40Jim]

I'm rebuilding my front wheels. When I went to tap the brand new inner wheel bearing onto the right spindle it just slid all the way on. There isn't much play but the race will rotate on the spindle. This is contrary to the left side which took a little force to get the new bearing on.

You've now boogered the right side by staking it.

And the left side may be a little jacked up from a previous bearing failure.

The bearings both just slide onto the spindle.

 

[FJ40fiji]

Well your technique turns out to be wrong, but I gotta admire that sexy looking axle all cleaned and painted. You get an A for effort!