IronMan suspension VS. Old Man Emu?

[sardi55]

I am looking to be lifting my 2000 uzj enough to fit 35" tires. I recently saw in the last issue of 4WD Toyota Owner they fit an IronMan suspension system on a 2001. I was wondering if anyone has had experience with IronMan and whether or not i can run 35" tires with the heavy setup? Secondly simply does anyone know if the IronMan setup is comprable to Old Man Emu in quality?

 

[spressomon]

I could be mistaken but I thought the Ironman torsion bars were 1mm larger OD than OME? Therefore stiffer spring rate.

 

[FullyLitLED]

I personally think you'd have more options in terms of spring rates if you use OME. I think Ironman only has light and heavy load while OME gives you options from 860, 863, 864, 865 and 866's

 

[Anthony.L]

I could be mistaken but I thought the Ironman torsion bars were 1mm larger OD than OME? Therefore stiffer spring rate.

You are correct about the diameter, however most here on these forums who have installed IM t-bars say the ride isn't too harsh at all.

I'm really torn on suspension, was thinking hybrid Bilstein/OME. Now I'm considering the new King suspension, or just wait for the uber dialed Slee suspension...

 

[ginericLC]

I think you won't find hardly anyone on here from the states with experience with them. Ironman got a bad rap in Australia years ago for their leaf springs. They jokingly called them Ironbutt springs. I think there is still some stigma associated with Ironman left over from those experiences. I also think they are using a different manufacturer for their products or there is different management or something as their offerings have changed. I'm most impressed with their adjustable caster bushings for the front of the 80 series. That is an innovative product. I also inquired with to the US distributor about some info on some parts. I was surprised at how inexpensive some of their products were. The 100 series snorkel is $275 plus shipping. I'm hoping to ride in in Ironman equipped 100 soon. I'd like to feel the differences myself. Suspension is like tires it is very subjective.

I love my OME setups. I think I'm on my 5th Cruiser that I've gone with OME. The only one I've ever been slightly disappointed in was the 100. But I think it is the nature of how the factory suspension with the torsion bars are set up is where my dissatisfaction lies and not the OME product.

 

[wareagle]

I love my ironman tbars. Not harsh at all.

 

[sardi55]

I have heard that the OME torsion bars are actaully a little too soft when running full equiptment. But at the same time I dont want it to ride as hard as my 60.

 

[spressomon]

I've been very pleased with my OME t-bars. I've got a serious load issue on my LC . I've thought about stiffer t-bar rate but keep leaning back towards the articulation side of what I have. The new Slee bumper will add about 50 more elbees over the front end...it will be interesting to see how the OME's handle the additional weight.

 

[sardi55]

so the consensus that i am getting here is that althought Ironman might have a great product the OME although more exspensive has given everyone what they want? So I should just suck it up and spend the extra $100 for the OME setup.

 

[Topmounter]

I think it is pretty safe to say that you won't be unhappy going with OME

 

[ChuckB]

I'm interested to see what Slee has to offer in the future. Now that the SAS 100 is out there (not that I need it, but I want it!!), and a new IFS set-up is in the works, I'm having a hard time deciding between purchasing an 80 or 100.

 

[spressomon]

I'm interested to see what Slee has to offer in the future. Now that the SAS 100 is out there (not that I need it, but I want it!!), and a new IFS set-up is in the works, I'm having a hard time deciding between purchasing an 80 or 100.

New IFS set-up? Do tell more! Hopefully IFS portal kit

 

[sardi55]

yes please dooo tell!

 

[FullyLitLED]

New IFS set-up? Do tell more! Hopefully IFS portal kit

yes please dooo tell!

I also want to know!

 

[ChuckB]

New IFS set-up? Do tell more! Hopefully IFS portal kit

yes please dooo tell!

I also want to know!

umm... ahh... ahh... umm...

I thought Slee was working on a super duper new suspension for the 100. Maybe I'm wrong??? I thought I read that around here somewhere?

Christo? Sorry if this is not true!!

 

[Trunk Monkey]

I think it's just new shocks, that's it.

Kinda on topic, looking at a friend's OME lift for his Taco, I so wish the 100 had coil-overs.

 

[FullyLitLED]

I think it's just new shocks, that's it.

Kinda on topic, looking at a friend's OME lift for his Taco, I so wish the 100 had coil-overs.

Will we ever have a coilover 100 with ifs?

 

[2000UZJ]

Will we ever have a coilover 100 with ifs?

Probably not, it's already pretty tight in there as is it. It would seem that a coilover setup with the factory control arms would reduce down travel. Reasons because a coilover is larger, so the UCA wouldn't have the room to droop. I think that could be the reason they went with the torsion bar setup because of space. As well as adjustability for the non-US spec trucks that came with the factory bullbar.

Just my thoughts, I don't know alot about coilover setups but I've seen a few and the shock and spring are together, which means its thicker in diameter, so the UCA would hit before fully droop.

 

[FullyLitLED]

Probably not, it's already pretty tight in there as is it. It would seem that a coilover setup with the factory control arms would reduce down travel. Reasons because a coilover is larger, so the UCA wouldn't have the room to droop. I think that could be the reason they went with the torsion bar setup because of space. As well as adjustability for the non-US spec trucks that came with the factory bullbar.

Just my thoughts, I don't know alot about coilover setups but I've seen a few and the shock and spring are together, which means its thicker in diameter, so the UCA would hit before fully droop.

toyota should have jus gave all 100's the SAS setup

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

If you plan to wheel your truck the Ironman setup is out for me. Sure, the ride is OK and not harsh however they do not articulate as well up front because they are too high a rate for our weight. It take a ton of force to compress your front.

My SwayAWay T-Bars are in between the Ironman and OME. If available back in 2001 I'd a preferred the OME because I need every added articulation improvement. The stiffer your Tbar the more the wheel will not compress and therefore the more the opposing wheel lifts in the air. I can't imagine what amount of front weight it would take for the Ironman's to work as well as SAW or OME. Between an ARB, winch, and lights we're about loaded!