Ineos Grenadier
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About 20K. She is actually driving it a few hours on I-35 today. I offered to let her take my LX600 but she refused. Before the Grenadier, she had a new style Defender. It was so unreliable (left her stranded on I-35) that she would borrow my LX570 to take when she needed to go out of town.
Since it is such niche vehicle and was produced to fill the void left by the extremely rugged, rough and void of all bells and whistles D110.....it should be cheaper and much more simple.
If it wasn't needed to meet the minimum gov't regulations, it didn't need it. Toot horn? Get outa here. How much time and engineering was used to make sure the roof was strong enough with the holes/glass panels? You know they had 100 meetings about it. Just that one simple design feature. Times that by 1000. The $ adds up fast.
Go the opposite way of all the other automakers. Defender is gone. Gwag is gone. True Land Cruiser is gone. LR Disco is gone. Wranglers are wack. Broncos are far too complicated. I mean if you're gonna do it, why not do it?! You would have zero competition.
If it wasn't needed to meet the minimum gov't regulations, it didn't need it. Toot horn? Get outa here. How much time and engineering was used to make sure the roof was strong enough with the holes/glass panels? You know they had 100 meetings about it. Just that one simple design feature. Times that by 1000. The $ adds up fast.
Go the opposite way of all the other automakers. Defender is gone. Gwag is gone. True Land Cruiser is gone. LR Disco is gone. Wranglers are wack. Broncos are far too complicated. I mean if you're gonna do it, why not do it?! You would have zero competition.
The new scout is another sad story
That's how I see it. I'm definitely in the demographic for all the reasons you stated. If I could buy a new 70 series wagon a little more easily, I'd go that route. But it's a serious pain in the ass skirting the import laws.
I forgot about the resurrection of that nameplate just to crap on it.
I like what Slate is trying to do (but we'll see what actually happens). Want carpet? Add it later. Want a radio? But a modular unit aftermarket.
Heck, just use the Tier 1 quality round headlight kit that Toyota sells for $50. I bet those LED halo pieces that Ineos used are thousands more than that. Take that mentallity and multiply it by 100.
I could knock off $10k easy, and that is just exterior level that I can see.
'everyone's doing something....we'll do nothing!" - Costanza
If Toyota would come to its senses and actually bring the IMV here and have it available with 4x4 and utility options. It would absolutely kill it. Even making it here to avoid tariffs would be an option. Not holding my breath on that though.
^I doubt that body structure was designed for US crash regs / airbag integration
Yes, it would have to be fitted with airbags and any required safety equipment. It is their body on frame, so it's not like they couldn't make it meet crash regulations. It still would be pretty cheap after that is all said and done.
I struggle to see this brand, and others (Rivian), being around for much longer.
All of which are being scaled back big time.
Yea...they could just fail and Ford or whoever just pick up their remnants and intellectual property.
The market for a full EV is tiny.
I'm curious if something like Edison motors is doing well become more mainstream.
It’s tiny. And DYING.
Didn't live up to the hype and the battery technology has a long ways to go before somebody like me would buy one.
I need something that will cover 250 miles on a charge at 26k pounds and not take a month to charge.
I'm curious how quickly the solid state battery tech will progress.
I love the look and the idea behind these, but I doubt I'll ever be a buyer. In my opinion, there are just too many drawbacks. I have no idea what will be next for myself. The wife is getting her new GX550 Overtrail any day now, so I'll see how I like it after we've had it for a minute.
No one is marketing a full EV to you.
You can get 250 miles on a charge and charge in under an hour for most car EVs. They are perfect for anyone who has a sub 100 mile commute. You can even charge with a 120v drop cord in a pinch to get off the road.
The only reason they don't take off fully is the cost and hesitancy with apt. dwellers. Charger infrastructure will help the latter. Slate motors will get my $ if they hit the price target.
Market or not. Doesn't matter when legislation says i can't buy a new internal combustion vehicle in my state in a ten years.
Hopefully I can skirt that through the business somehow. Right now EV's are essentially useless for me, and useless when it's cold.
I would like to see an actual hybrid. But Edison is the only one doing it, and there's no signs of the consumer grade vehicle manufactures going that route.
Toyota can offer you the Prius. It has been handed quite the acclaim over the past 20 years.
A hybrid for what? Pulling 30k # trailers?
And no one is going to outlaw ICE engines for commerical work before hybrid/elec can step in for a 1 for 1 replacement.
A hybrid for what? Pulling 30k # trailers?
And no one is going to outlaw ICE engines for commerical work before hybrid/elec can step in for a 1 for 1 replacement.