Or your could just remove the antenna and get one like this:
Universal Window-mount Antenna
They actually work rather well
Universal Window-mount Antenna
They actually work rather well
HZJ105 rolling frame
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rly?
Neat.. any pics of it installed?
The pictures I posted are of LHD TLCs.
ah, i looked at the picture zane attached...im multi-tasking over here, didnt take a look at the other pictures....till i saw the safari one which was RHD also
Flame Away!
Ok, I don't "get" snorkels, at all. They kill airflow, reduce hp, and offer no benefit at all unless you have a waterproof ignition system (which almost no gas engine does). Even for dusty conditions, a better solution is to buy a desert racing wrap for a regular air filter. People make fun of 'ricers' all the time for doing mods that impair performance for the sake of looks. How is a snorkel on a LC not exactly the same thing?
Ok, I don't "get" snorkels, at all. They kill airflow, reduce hp, and offer no benefit at all unless you have a waterproof ignition system (which almost no gas engine does). Even for dusty conditions, a better solution is to buy a desert racing wrap for a regular air filter. People make fun of 'ricers' all the time for doing mods that impair performance for the sake of looks. How is a snorkel on a LC not exactly the same thing?
i want those matte black mirrors!
For LHD trucks with the factory snorkel the antenna is on the Drivers side, as the below picture shows.
Here's my logic, if you will:
1. Nearly every aftermarket intake adverises a hp/tq gain, if there was one why would all snorkel manufacturers forget to mention it?
2. As a degreed mechanical engineer with auto industry experience, there is a reason most vehicles are designed to have the airbox as close as reasonable possible to the throttle body. Breathing through a tuned venturi throat would help airflow, but a snorkel is anything but that.
3. The 'trail dust' logic is also flawed, having wheeled a fair amount in Arizona, 99% of people used a different solution to fight dust, a simple high void volume prefilter wrap. Plus at any signficant speed, such as on a dirt road, dust often goes well above the top of the vehicle anyway.
4. There is a small cold air benefit below 25mph, after that there is plenty of air circulation under the hood. Cold air intakes are designed with a long tube of equal diameter which provides a greater benefit from smoothing the airflow than actual cooler air.
5. If you have sealed the electrical system, and actually ford rivers, yes, a snorkel is the tool. If not, why spend money and decrease performance to make your vehicle look more hardcore than it really is? Is that not the definition of poseur?
1. Nearly every aftermarket intake adverises a hp/tq gain, if there was one why would all snorkel manufacturers forget to mention it?
2. As a degreed mechanical engineer with auto industry experience, there is a reason most vehicles are designed to have the airbox as close as reasonable possible to the throttle body. Breathing through a tuned venturi throat would help airflow, but a snorkel is anything but that.
3. The 'trail dust' logic is also flawed, having wheeled a fair amount in Arizona, 99% of people used a different solution to fight dust, a simple high void volume prefilter wrap. Plus at any signficant speed, such as on a dirt road, dust often goes well above the top of the vehicle anyway.
4. There is a small cold air benefit below 25mph, after that there is plenty of air circulation under the hood. Cold air intakes are designed with a long tube of equal diameter which provides a greater benefit from smoothing the airflow than actual cooler air.
5. If you have sealed the electrical system, and actually ford rivers, yes, a snorkel is the tool. If not, why spend money and decrease performance to make your vehicle look more hardcore than it really is? Is that not the definition of poseur?
Here's my logic, if you will:
1. Nearly every aftermarket intake adverises a hp/tq gain, if there was one why would all snorkel manufacturers forget to mention it?
2. As a degreed mechanical engineer with auto industry experience, there is a reason most vehicles are designed to have the airbox as close as reasonable possible to the throttle body. Breathing through a tuned venturi throat would help airflow, but a snorkel is anything but that.
3. The 'trail dust' logic is also flawed, having wheeled a fair amount in Arizona, 99% of people used a different solution to fight dust, a simple high void volume prefilter wrap. Plus at any signficant speed, such as on a dirt road, dust often goes well above the top of the vehicle anyway.
4. There is a small cold air benefit below 25mph, after that there is plenty of air circulation under the hood. Cold air intakes are designed with a long tube of equal diameter which provides a greater benefit from smoothing the airflow than actual cooler air.
5. If you have sealed the electrical system, and actually ford rivers, yes, a snorkel is the tool. If not, why spend money and decrease performance to make your vehicle look more hardcore than it really is? Is that not the definition of poseur? If I'm so wrong would someone explain it to me at length? It just seems like a waste of money that would be better spent on any number of actual performance mods.
1. Nearly every aftermarket intake adverises a hp/tq gain, if there was one why would all snorkel manufacturers forget to mention it?
2. As a degreed mechanical engineer with auto industry experience, there is a reason most vehicles are designed to have the airbox as close as reasonable possible to the throttle body. Breathing through a tuned venturi throat would help airflow, but a snorkel is anything but that.
3. The 'trail dust' logic is also flawed, having wheeled a fair amount in Arizona, 99% of people used a different solution to fight dust, a simple high void volume prefilter wrap. Plus at any signficant speed, such as on a dirt road, dust often goes well above the top of the vehicle anyway.
4. There is a small cold air benefit below 25mph, after that there is plenty of air circulation under the hood. Cold air intakes are designed with a long tube of equal diameter which provides a greater benefit from smoothing the airflow than actual cooler air.
5. If you have sealed the electrical system, and actually ford rivers, yes, a snorkel is the tool. If not, why spend money and decrease performance to make your vehicle look more hardcore than it really is? Is that not the definition of poseur? If I'm so wrong would someone explain it to me at length? It just seems like a waste of money that would be better spent on any number of actual performance mods.
I have wheeled a lot in AZ and have tested dirt intake with and without a snorkel. Signficantly more dirt was in the tuna can on the non snorkel vehicle. Ya you can use a pre-filter but those clog to.
Dont forget about the cool factor points.
The factory snorkel fits a lot nicer then the Safari. Wonder if the Safari cap can be changed with the factory spaceship cap?
Jesus dude did someone beat you with a snorkel when you were younger? By your same logic I should trailer my rig when on pavement because the A/T tires decrease gas milage, I should buy a hand winch because I will rarely use an electrical one....I could go on-and-on.....
Actaully you are kind of right, I only want a snorkel cus I think they look cool
Actaully you are kind of right, I only want a snorkel cus I think they look cool
Just to add a question to this, in regards to fording:
Assuming extended breathers, what is the "safe" fording depth of an LC (with and w/o snorkel), considering the generator is likely one of the lower electrical and critical devices I would be really concerned getting flooded?
Just curious...
Assuming extended breathers, what is the "safe" fording depth of an LC (with and w/o snorkel), considering the generator is likely one of the lower electrical and critical devices I would be really concerned getting flooded?
Just curious...
In regards to the OEM snorkel.
They're not available here.
They're available in DUSTY regions.
Toyota makes specific versions of Land Cruisers for the intended region. If Toyota could do without the snorkel, they wouldn't offer it.
It's not for fording rivers. Even the 70 series snorkel comes in two pieces, not water tight. It's merely a functional "clean air scoop."
They're not available here.
They're available in DUSTY regions.
Toyota makes specific versions of Land Cruisers for the intended region. If Toyota could do without the snorkel, they wouldn't offer it.
It's not for fording rivers. Even the 70 series snorkel comes in two pieces, not water tight. It's merely a functional "clean air scoop."
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I have wheeled a lot in AZ and have tested dirt intake with and without a snorkel. Signficantly more dirt was in the tuna can on the non snorkel vehicle. Ya you can use a pre-filter but those clog to.
Dont forget about the cool factor points.
The factory snorkel fits a lot nicer then the Safari. Wonder if the Safari cap can be changed with the factory spaceship cap?
Different diameter intake, you need to fabricate an adapter.
