How's your 100 Series Body Lift? (2 Viewers)

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Spresso - I thought you made changes to your setup and were now running a 2" BL? I would consider doing this but now would have to make changes to my bumpers and sliders or I'll have the big gap between the body. If you were going to attempt to run a 37" tire what would your setup be?
 
I'm currently running 1" body lift and like it fine. Don't know if 2" and some fender cutting would get it done or not (as it relates to running 37's which is the only reason IMO to consider more body lift height). I'm not sure I'd even want the additional leverage on the OEM body mounts with 2"+ BL; may or may not be a worry.

But there's quite a bit of work to get 2"+...tranny, t-case, etc., linkages need to get modified to get it all to work right. Then it would look pretty goofy without matched height bumpers, sliders, etc.

Pretty big can o'worms :rolleyes:


Unless you're Slee :flipoff2:
 
I thought I read somewhere that Podvin still had to trim the fender when he ran the 37's with a 2" body lift on his 100. Although, I cant find anything on it now....
 
Good conversation, guys.

I think its' been figured out, but yes, I only did a 3/4" body lift. I cut the 3/4" thick plastic sheet into 2" x 2" squares. I bought the smallest piece they had that was still way more than I needed. I've got over half of the stock material left. The circle rubber bushings of the body mounts fit nicely over the 2 inch square.

PM me if anyone's interested and we can work something out. I don't need the extra stock material. I could even cut and drill them for you so they ship easier. I've got enough left for one full set. The plastic is white, you may not like that. Doesn't bother me, as it's not visible anyway.

I only did 3/4" because I did not want to have to modify any other parts of the rig.
 
I got some time today to work on the last parts of the body lift...the secret hidden bolts.

As I showed before, the top of the bolt ends in a torque drive pattern, a star. I had to figure out how to get the stud out, as I couldn't source a coupler to fit from the local Ace. Also, there's not enough room anyway for a coupler and extension stud with only a 3/4 lift.

So after three trips to Ace, I discovered the star pattern fits no common tool. I had to bite it with the visegrips and get it loose.

Here it is. The non-star pattern threaded end goes into a captive nut in the frame cross rail.
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Here is the whole assembly, nut-washer and all
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Here is what I did, I bought a 100 mm long (perfect length) M10 bolt with a 1.25 pitch. YOU NEED TWO OF THESE BOLTS IN YOUR 1/2" TO 1" BODY LIFT PARTS LIST! AND FOUR NUTS ALSO
I threaded the bolt all the way through the nut-washer and torqued it down snug so it is one piece. I then threaded two nuts up the bolt to a point where they are 3/4" longer than where the lip and end of the threads are on the factory stud. This is so the phony new stud will function like the old one and not vibrate loose. It's kind of weird, but in the end, it will function as designed by Toyota...for what ever reason.

These replacement studs are necessary for the body lift or else you are bending the bottom piece of sheet metal in your cargo area floor. These are not on the factory service manual diagrams shown thus far.

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I ran out of time tonight to reinstall these. I will get them in and get photos from below tomorrow.

Remember, I have one set of body lift pucks I can sell to someone.





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So one lucky Mudd member will be getting ten pucks ready to go in the mail soon.

I found a picture I took of the plastic before I cut it.

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Hi all,
my name is Sverrir and I have been long time lurking, first in the 60 cruiser section but recently in this section.

I was wondering if you don't have any problems with chassis rubbing with 315/75 R16. Body lift does not prevent that does it?

I recently bought a 1998 100 cruiser with ahc and it came with 315/75 R16 and the main problem I have is rubbing with the chassis, the tires have until now not had any contact with the fender.
Sverrir
 
i believe the fix for this is wheel spacers - you'll find many of the guys running that large of a tire have them. it's not only to help with the chassis rub, but also to get the track width back (or closer to the edge of the body) after you lift the IFS (and for visual/stability purposes)
 
However.... Spacers can also add other rubbing issues....
 
I recently bought a 1998 100 cruiser with ahc and it came with 315/75 R16 and the main problem I have is rubbing with the chassis, the tires have until now not had any contact with the fender.
If by chassis, you mean frame, and the rubbing is on full lock, you can adjust the turn stops to minimize it.
 
ok, thanks

how thick spacer have you been using?

I just pulled a set of 1 1/4" spacers off. That was in combination with a set of 295/75R/16 BFG AT's. I was getting rubbing at the very top of the wheel well in full compression and at the back of the wheel well when turning. I just installed custom 10mm spacers two days ago and making sure there is no other rubbing issues.

One other thing... Since you are in Iceland. If you need to use tire chains, you may have issues with a tire that wide and would definitely need thicker spacers... like 1" or a little more. You can solve the rubbing at the back of the fender by triming the lining where it rubs and using a hammer to bend the pinch weld out of the way/back. You might try sending a PM to member Spressoman. He ran the 315's for a little while and has more detailed info on what to expect with a 315, chains, etc. FWIW, he decided long ago to go to a 285 width tire in a 35" size with 10mm spacers and a body lift so he could run chains with no issues
 
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1" body lift installed!

So I just finished installing my 1" body lift and thought I would share some pointers so that others can do this easier.

I cut my body pucks from a 1" thick plate of UHMW polyethylene (you can use any sort of high density polyethylene) from TAP plastics (http://www.tapplastics.com/product/plastics/cut_to_size_plastic). I used a waterjet machine to cut them out but a simple hole saw will work just fine. I believe that I cut them to a 2.605 diameter with a 12mm hole for the bolt.

As stated earlier, you will need to remove or partially remove your rear drawer system if you have one (this took me the longest). I did not have to take my sliders off though.

You will need 4 M10 - 1.25 x 170mm bolts and 2 M10 - 1.25 x 140mm bolts. (assuming none of your other bolts are corroded beyond use). You can also reuse all of the nuts and washers. I sourced my bolts from fastenal.

Before you jack up the vehicle you will need to remove the "offending bolt" (see posts #74 and 86 for details). It must be removed from inside the cab, the nuts on the frame are captured. This is located where the rear carpet and 2nd row carpet meet and there is a Velcro seam. This bolt appears to serve no purpose and is just hanging out between the lower panel of the body and the upper floor pan (about 1/2" away from anything on the body). It appears to be letting any sort of water and dirt in as it is not plugged. This is very disconcerting to me so I will be plugging it with a 1 3/4" body plug.

I was able to press on and off the factory washers so that they would be used in their appropriate holes (some are different sizes and the factory washers keep the bolts from turning while you are torquing down the nuts, except for the #1 bolt). For the bolts that I bought, I TIG welded the appropriate washers on (pic #1).

Since I did not remove my sliders, I jacked from an area that was open and free of lines just inside of the pinch weld area. I just a floor jack but I believe that a bottle jack would be better to help keep the body aligned while jacking. Make sure you use plenty of wood to distribute the weight of the cab so you don't punch through the floor. Also, before you lift, loosen all of the body bolts. Only remove the nuts on the side that you will be jacking up (this helps to keep the body in line). Once up, just pull the bolts out and replace them with the appropriate bolts and washers.

As for the body bolt #s refer to post #29. For the #1 and 2 bolts, I used the 170mm bolts and their appropriate factory washers. I then used the factory #1 bolt in the #3 bolt position and the factory #2 bolt in the #4 bolt position. For bolt #5, I used the 140mm bolt. I torqued all of them down to 40 ft-lbs.

As for the #6 position, I made a holder that the puck presses into which will then be welded to the frame underneath the existing body puck (pic #2).

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! Make sure you trim your fan shroud or lower the shroud/ radiator. Your fan will be touching once you are done. You will only need to cut the very bottom if you decide to go this route. I cut it with an air powered cut off tool, however, I believe that a small body sawzall or a jig saw might be better do to the confined area. Once satisfied, I then finished the cut edge and the corners with a rasp file.

I will post pictures of the welded holder, the sealed body hole, and the cut fan shroud once I get a chance to take some pics. Let me know if you have any questions or I am missing anything.
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So I've seen two people post in this thread they simple removed and capped the "offending bolts" in the rear cargo area. Another person went to the trouble of putting in extended bolts. Is the consensus these bolts are not needed?
 
The washers of those bolts sit midway in this cavity. You would have to severely overload and damage your cargo area in order for these things to help.
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The first picture is of the trimmed fan shroud. This is the best i could do without taking off the skid plate.

The second one is of the puck holders I welded onto my cross member for the #6 position. Looking at the gap between the wheel well and the frame. Still need to put a coat of paint on them.
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So I've seen two people post in this thread they simple removed and capped the "offending bolts" in the rear cargo area. Another person went to the trouble of putting in extended bolts. Is the consensus these bolts are not needed?

The washers of those bolts sit midway in this cavity. You would have to severely overload and damage your cargo area in order for these things to help.

I wouldn't be so quick to believe it's just a vestigial structure serving no purpose. It's likely related the fact that the pucks in position #6 are not secured to the body and frame directly with a bolt.

My theory is that this allows some additional freedom in the frame to flex independently of the body - especially the segment above the rear axle - without translating as much twist into the body.

It's likely a durability feature. Yet the free floating bolt still couple the two structures together in extreme situations, i.e. accident or other large force.
 
And the 10 m10 class 8.8 or greater bolts don't accomplish this?

I am sure they were put in there for some purpose whether it be assembly, safety, federal regulation, whatever, just didn't see the need for them to be in there any longer letting large debris into my body support channel.
 
Shaggy, did you have to do anything with reference to the steering column, like a spacer or anything?
 

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