horn button

[Midwestcruiser]

Can anyone show me pics, or a schematic of the 1970+/- horn button setup. My manual only shows the newer key-in-the column setup.. I have the key in the dash
I think i am missing some sort or plastic or non-conducting isolator somewhere in the button

Steve

 

[Midwestcruiser]

anyone???
I'll even throw in a pic of what i have

 

[enyaw]

Does this help?

 

[Poser]

Do you have a wire coming out of your steering column, past the turn signal switch?

Just a single wire.

 

[DSRTRDR]

yes, you are missing the plate that locks into the two notches #5 (called horn contact seat in the other drawing) - the insulator is #4, it's a rubber flange that reaches down into #5 and up into #3

#5 also has attached the horn contact #11, which is a small metal cylinder attached to a spring (like in a ball point pen) - the contact rides on #6 in the lower pic as you turn the wheel

the parts you have are #1, 2, 3, 7, 8 - #8 is a M17 nut that hardly anybody carries

 

[DSRTRDR]

Do you have a wire coming out of your steering column, past the turn signal switch?

Just a single wire.

he should, he has the old style steering wheel - but the wire comes out of column closer to the firewall than the turn signal switch

 

[Midwestcruiser]

much appreciated dsrtrdr and enyaw..i will have to look around for my missing pieces..

poser, i think you are talking about #6, i do have this wire and brush/contact..the horn works by touching the contacts, i am just in need of the insulators so i am not listening to the horn all the time

Thanks again

 

[DSRTRDR]

much appreciated dsrtrdr and enyaw..i will have to look around for my missing pieces..

poser, i think you are talking about #6, i do have this wire and brush/contact..the horn works by touching the contacts, i am just in need of the insulators so i am not listening to the horn all the time

Thanks again

feel free to PM me if you don't find the pieces or need info on replacement

I also have a fix if you find your horn randomly self-honking :whoops:

good luck

 

[65swb45]

Form follows function. You can make an insulator out of almost anything that will separate the spring clip that the horn button attaches to from the horn contact. I have used cut up Gatorade bottle caps and the like, and experimented with a few poly pieces as well.

I have an NOS rubber insulator that I am holding onto for the day that someone finds a good mold maker I can work with.

Best

Mark A.

 

[DSRTRDR]

Form follows function. You can make an insulator out of almost anything that will separate the spring clip that the horn button attaches to from the horn contact. I have used cut up Gatorade bottle caps and the like, and experimented with a few poly pieces as well.

I used a cut-out from a milk bottle for a while

a rubber washer from the hardware store is more reliable if you can find one with the right opening

 

[65swb45]

I used a cut-out from a milk bottle for a while

a rubber washer from the hardware store is more reliable if you can find one with the right opening

See, now I'm thinking that a milk bottle cap would be closer in thickness to the factory rubber than any hardware store rubber would be. Needs to be less than a 1/16th of an inch, where all the hardware store stuff I've seen is 1/8th plus.

And I don't think the center opening is critical.

Best

Mark A.

 

[DSRTRDR]

See, now I'm thinking that a milk bottle cap would be closer in thickness to the factory rubber than any hardware store rubber would be. Needs to be less than a 1/16th of an inch, where all the hardware store stuff I've seen is 1/8th plus.

And I don't think the center opening is critical.

Best

Mark A.

I found some nice flat large washers at Ace, no idea of the thickness, but it's closer to 1/16th than 1/8th IIRC - some have too small a hole, and it's a pain to cut properly by hand - depending on size, the washer may also need to be cut on the outside, since you have to allow for #3 to make contact with #5 when you actually push the horn

 

[Coolerman]

This may be a little late but here is a write up I did on my 2/71 horn.
Plenty of pics including the rubber washer thing you are missing.

Horn Troubleshooting

 

[dcamp]

Great write-up Coolerman...

 

[Midwestcruiser]

sweet..i found the parts i needed.. just need to fab up the rubber insulator, will try milk cap or rubber washer as mentioned

 

[NanoCar]

Great write-up Coolerman...

Nice! I was about to say that too! Anyway, thanks for these pics! found parts like those horn button from a junk shops. Pretty cheap but in good condition.. (just wanted to say thanks, sorry for bumping)