HELP! Prado broken down in Red Deer....

[crushers]

my guess is a piece of the tubo fins got jabed under either valve keeping it open...
i am sorry to hear that news, sounds expensive.
best of luck to you...

BTW Bay Zero is really good food, eh?
glad Pascal was able to help you out..
cheers

 

[endless]

I guess we'll find out today what we're looking at as far as time and money.....I'm becoming motivated to learn some mechanical skills here, that's for sure.

Wayne~ Yep, great food! We don't get that kind of thing out in thr boonies, so it was a treat. Might be the only bright spot on this whole trip at this point.

Wish me luck.

 

[nickw]

Wayne~ Yep, great food! We don't get that kind of thing out in thr boonies, so it was a treat. Might be the only bright spot on this whole trip at this point.

Hey, you get better resturants in Nelson, then we do in Cranbrook.
I can only think of a few good ones in Cranbrook/Kimberley.

 

[endless]

That's true, Nick, but we don't have much for authentic ethnic food like Thai or Vietnamese.....for some reason they just don't want to move to Nelson!

So far in the ongoing saga we've not heard a damn thing from the service manager at Toyota, who just yesterday promised to call as soon as he had any news. Finally went down there only to be told that he's left for the day (at 1pm ), and as far as the service receptionist was able to tell us they were waiting on a part. Wouldn't even let us speak to the mechanic. Gee, does it sound like they're avoiding us? I'm beginning to get a little pissed off

 

[endless]

Finally got a callback from a receptionist at Toyota who told me that they've sent the injector from the #4 cylinder out to a diesel place and are awaiting it's return, possibly in a couple of days! That`s all she knows. Problem is, we can`t stay here past friday morning so it`s starting to look like we may have to leave the truck here and go home, which I hate to do.....

Either that or have it towed to Calgary to be fixed by the guys listed on Wayne`s site who obviously know what they`re doing. I can`t say I have much confidence in the guys handling it at the moment.

 

[nickw]

I would talk to the service manager first thing in the morning.
Get some firm prices before they continue (and timelines).

And, don't you have to approve stuff/prices before they start sending things out?
At this point how much do you owe them?
What have you said you will pay for?
And what have they done by thier own will?
Don't let them take advantage of you.

If things start going downhill you might want to have it towed to Wayne's.


Cheers,
Nick

 

[Urbancarrot]

Endless,

If you need anything from Edmonton feel free to contact me.... I am in Red Deer often....

If you are looking for great Mexican food try Las Palmaros (sp?) They are south of downtown on Gatez on top of the hill...

 

[mjohn7]

If you are thinking of towing it to Calgary, phone Pro-Active first, as they uaualy have a two week waiting list. Mike 403-291-2470. Also in Calgary Country Hills Toyota and Canyon Creeek both do work on JDM units.

 

[light_duty]

With all due respect to what are no doubt fine mechanics, I have to wonder about the logic of sending one injector out for servicing, unless there is visible damage to that injector. If there is zero compression in Cylinder #4, a bad injector is not the likely cause.

I'd get all up in their face about it - like actually go down to the dealer and see what they've done to the truck. If the valve cover is still on the truck, they're not doing their job. Lots of experts on the forum here have suggested a valve stuck open - they should definitely be looking at that. Maybe they should have sent the whole truck over to the diesel shop!

My two bits.

 

[crushers]

if you are not happy with the service then get their report in writting for further action should it come to that...
i am curious as to why the injecor would suddenly fail...
did they do a compression test before they pulled the injector? if so what were the results?
as for the idea of taking it to ANY dealer, i would seriously hesitate. Mike does okay with these trucks and unless these blokes really know what they are doing then you are in effect paying them to learn. i have been doing this with Mike, Dan for parts and others for the last 4 years. some times it was worth the money, sometimes it was a waste.
if you do end up leaving it in Alberta then time is not the main factor, getting the job done right is. send the truck to Mike and be done with it...
cheers

 

[TwoThirtyDirty]

Endless,

If you need a place to leave your rig in RD till things get sorted let me know. I'm about 5 miles out of the city on an acreage. Will hook you up with a CAA tow if you need.

 

[endless]

Say, when are you heading to Nelson? I'm heading to Gray Creek on Thursday or Friday - it would be cool to convoy at least to Creston...

Anyway, what a pain in the ass for you! I hope you get it sorted tomorrow.

Robin

I totally missed this one ! I think we'll be heading out Friday morning unless something miraculously changes for the better tomorrow....

Thanks for all the replies, everyone. I think our first move tomorrow will be to implement all of the suggestions you`ve given, from `getting in their face`at Toyota to calling ProActive in Calgary. Will keep you posted.

BTW, that really is good Mexican food, thanks for the tip!

 

[light_duty]

Still heading out to Gray Creek tomorrow morning - nothing like celebrating Thanksgiving by yourself in cabin on the lake! I may be in Nelson on Saturday, so if you see an identical truck to yours down on Baker Street, it's probably me!

All the best on your trip home - what a bummer. Just think - If you were driving a Yukon, you'd be home by now...

Robin

 

[nickw]

Still heading out to Gray Creek tomorrow morning - nothing like celebrating Thanksgiving by yourself in cabin on the lake!

Robin, any planned stops in Cranbrook this weekend?
If so, feel free to give me a call on my cell.
I can PM you my number, or Mike has it too.

Funny enought, I was thinking of making a day trip to lethbridge on Saturday.
I may or may not go.

Cheers,
Nick

 

[endless]

Well, we took off yesterday morning and are now at home, where the assorted livestock are all happy to see us!

We had a meeting with the service manager in the morning and he explained that they'd sent the injector out for testing because they'd been able to determine that the problem was in that cylinder but wanted to rule out that as a problem before going further into it. They were going to check out the valve yesterday late afternoon so we'll find out m ore later this morning. I guess part of the problem is that their shop doesn't have a compression tester for deisels, so they have to get one from the nearby VW dealer.

We got a chance to speak to the mechanic as well, he's Australian and has worked on these before although he said it's been awhile. He's also worked on larger diesels while at GM. I actually feel pretty confident that he is capable of doing the job. Their major concern is sourcing parts, so I will hope that whatever they need can be obtained with some help from this board....

Anyway, the option is still there to take it to Calgary, and we told them that. We'll wait and see what today holds first.

Robin~ We'll be in Nelson on Saturday, so I'll keep an eye out for your truck!

 

[endless]

Looks like we're towing to Calgary, as the techs at Toyota have decided they don't want to take on the job.....

I guess we'll call ProActive tomorrow and get the ball rolling. Thanks for everyone's help and advice so far!

 

[nickw]

So what is Toyota going to charge you?

Cheers.

 

[endless]

Toyota is only charging us for 2 hours labour, so I'm happy with that. The tow is going to cost us around $400-500.

Nick, do you have any idea wht the lifespan of the turbo should be? I'm wondering why it failed at 67,000km.

 

[nickw]

Toyota is only charging us for 2 hours labour, so I'm happy with that. The tow is going to cost us around $400-500.

Nick, do you have any idea wht the lifespan of the turbo should be? I'm wondering why it failed at 67,000km.

Lifespan of a turbo?
That all depends on how it was treated.
I am not surprised it died after 67,000Kms if abused.
Mine only made it 139,500KMs.
Also are you sure your truck has 67K orginal?
Who did you buy it from? Can they confirm no roll-back?
Or can you confirm no roll back?

My feeling is quite a few diesel in Japan are not given the cool down time they need. A turbo could last the life of the truck or at least until engine rebuild, if treated right. Big things are, regular oil changes, and cool down time. If treated wrong, a new turbo could die in a year or less.

There are quite a few threads in diesel section.
I had started one about "diesel basics" or something like that.

As far as 2 hours labour, that is not bad, in the scheme of things.
I can see them wanting to recover some costs, but I can also see you wanting to not pay anything because they did not fix it, and cost you several days. I am not sure who is right here. But if you and them are both happy with 2 hours, then thats cool.

Best of luck.

Cheers,
Nick

 

[endless]

No, I guess I can't really say for sure that the km count is accurate....but we've driven it according to the 'diesel basics' thread, more or less. We change the oil every 5,000km. I guess I should talk to Penticton Toyota about seeing if they can confirm the mileage.