Looks like the pistons drop out the bottom of the block the same.
Help me plan for a 2FE
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Just a comparison
my engine back from machinist
ARP conrod bolts trimmed to fit in 2F
See the trimming done to do balancing ( the 0.060" oversize OEM pistons were cut on a lathe on the inside )
my engine back from machinist
ARP conrod bolts trimmed to fit in 2F
See the trimming done to do balancing ( the 0.060" oversize OEM pistons were cut on a lathe on the inside )
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Looks like you should have a really nice engine when it's assembled.
Rockdoc
I see you are not on the net regularly but how is the engine build coming along - mine is fitted but not fired up yet .
I see you are not on the net regularly but how is the engine build coming along - mine is fitted but not fired up yet .
PabloCruise
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I think he had to move - RockDoc, you got your ears on?
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I moved and don't get online very often (yet anyway). The engine has been sitting in an outbuilding at my uncle's farm, and I am hoping to get back to it shortly. Still need to bolt on all the peripheral stuff and think about how I'll work the swap as far as removal and re-installation.
I was away for a month for the Alaska Cruiser Trek, so cruiser-money and cruiser-time were devoted to that over that last few months.
I was away for a month for the Alaska Cruiser Trek, so cruiser-money and cruiser-time were devoted to that over that last few months.
You've been missed RockDoc 
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You've been missed RockDoc
:blush:
I would love to be on here more, but to be honest I'm kind of enjoying spending more time in the real world.
Great observation!
Reality is overrated... Time circuits on. Flux Capacitor... fluxxing. Engine running. All right!
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A few pics as I start to mock up the accessories:
My block must be earlier than Tonkota's was, as I am lacking the second threaded hole he used in mounting the upper alt bracket (and have a pressed in oil gallery plug rather than screwed in like his). I'll need to brace the base of the alt bracket out from the waterpump instead.... One issue I've run across is that the waterpump bolt holes on the 2F have different threading than the 3FE has, so to fit the brackets and such, I've had to source new studs (M10x1.50 rather than M10x1.25) as the 3FE studs won't work......
I ground the webbing of the idler bracket as Tonkota did, seem like that will work fine. I'm hoping to rig the "extra" outlet from the thermostat housing to feed in to the heater return line to the water pump (goes to an additional inlet on the 3FE pump) so that there is flow through the block and head when the thermostat is closed and heaters are off (which there wouldn't be if that outlet is simply plugged). I'm also hoping to rig up a dual alternator set up, inspired by that seen on a 62 in Alaska for the Trek. Might have to track down a 2F pulley for the 2nd alt.
My block must be earlier than Tonkota's was, as I am lacking the second threaded hole he used in mounting the upper alt bracket (and have a pressed in oil gallery plug rather than screwed in like his). I'll need to brace the base of the alt bracket out from the waterpump instead.... One issue I've run across is that the waterpump bolt holes on the 2F have different threading than the 3FE has, so to fit the brackets and such, I've had to source new studs (M10x1.50 rather than M10x1.25) as the 3FE studs won't work......
I ground the webbing of the idler bracket as Tonkota did, seem like that will work fine. I'm hoping to rig the "extra" outlet from the thermostat housing to feed in to the heater return line to the water pump (goes to an additional inlet on the 3FE pump) so that there is flow through the block and head when the thermostat is closed and heaters are off (which there wouldn't be if that outlet is simply plugged). I'm also hoping to rig up a dual alternator set up, inspired by that seen on a 62 in Alaska for the Trek. Might have to track down a 2F pulley for the 2nd alt.
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A few pics of how I got the alternator bracket done up with the "missing" second bolt hole.
A portion of the 3FE waterpump casting was used as a spacer to get the bracket out from the block. A bolt (M10x1.50x70mm I believe) went through the upper hole into the block, and the lower hole is dealt with using a stud that runs through the bracket into the waterpump-spacer (floating in that) with a 4mm thick reinforcing strap running to one of the 2F waterpump bolts. Seems solid enough, but of course isn't tested yet.
A portion of the 3FE waterpump casting was used as a spacer to get the bracket out from the block. A bolt (M10x1.50x70mm I believe) went through the upper hole into the block, and the lower hole is dealt with using a stud that runs through the bracket into the waterpump-spacer (floating in that) with a 4mm thick reinforcing strap running to one of the 2F waterpump bolts. Seems solid enough, but of course isn't tested yet.
PabloCruise
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Whoa! Crazy stuff!!!
I am trying to remember - you are putting a second alt where the air pump used to live?
I am trying to remember - you are putting a second alt where the air pump used to live?
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I would like to, but I may leave that till after it's in and I get a second battery.
I've got the manifolds and injectors bolted on now, and the intake plenum ready to put on... Getting the coolant hose situation figured may require a bit of improvisation... S-l-o-w-l-y it's coming together.
I've got the manifolds and injectors bolted on now, and the intake plenum ready to put on... Getting the coolant hose situation figured may require a bit of improvisation... S-l-o-w-l-y it's coming together.
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Plenum is dry-fitted and I just picked up some new vacuum and coolant hose to get those bits nailed down. Started a new job on Wednesday that should keep me really busy for the next couple months. But at least I'll be living out where all my cruiser stuff is stored now, so I can poke away at it more regularly...... when I'm not working 12 hours in the sun
I wonder if I can rig a grain auger to work as an engine crane?
PabloCruise
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Plenum is dry-fitted and I just picked up some new vacuum and coolant hose to get those bits nailed down. Started a new job on Wednesday that should keep me really busy for the next couple months. But at least I'll be living out where all my cruiser stuff is stored now, so I can poke away at it more regularly...... when I'm not working 12 hours in the sun
I wonder if I can rig a grain auger to work as an engine crane?
Looks great!
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2F valve cover polished up and on. Have the coolant hoses all roughed in, the bypass from the 3FE thermo housing will dump into the rad return line (using a fitting from the 2F that must have been for the heater return or oil cooler return). A couple household copper pipe fittings serve to adapt between 1" and 5/8" hose, and to butt join a formed hose and some generic bulk hose. One is for adapting 1/2" copper to 3/4" copper I believe, and the other for butt joining to lengths of 1/2", I'm just sliding them into the rubber hose, rather than over the copper as they are intended.
Did the 2F get different oil caps at different times? I got this one from a mudder (since the 2F came without one) but the valve cover has a larger hole with finer threads...... retapped or wrong cap?
Can just make out the 5/8" to 1" adapter here on the heater return line.
Did the 2F get different oil caps at different times? I got this one from a mudder (since the 2F came without one) but the valve cover has a larger hole with finer threads...... retapped or wrong cap?
Can just make out the 5/8" to 1" adapter here on the heater return line.
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Wrong cap. Motor is looking great!
That looks like a 3FE cap to me.
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I'll have to dig around a bit more and see if I just got out the wrong cap and I have a 2F one somewhere still. The top of this one is different than on my 89 3FE, but maybe it's just a replacement or something.
