When pricing comes out I’m gonna opt for Earth or Nori to open my odds up. Nori is awesome.
GX550 & LC250 Tracking Thread (10 Viewers)
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When pricing comes out I’m gonna opt for Earth or Nori to open my odds up. Nori is awesome.
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As of a few weeks, still no updates on pricing or whatnot from the dealers in Austin or Dallas.
Hoping we get some info soon!
Hoping we get some info soon!
Yep. Mountain States, in Denver for example, consistently bests (by a lot) our local Flagstaff dealer in both inventory and price. They make the plane ticket and scenic drive home well worth it.
Anyone know when media drives and/or the embargo are?
figuring it will be closer to thanksgiving
I can't wait to drive this and compare it to how the LC300 drives.
Very curious to know how much it weighs.
In the past the Prado was always a better city daily driver + lighter in the sand dunes (If comparable engines) - but the Prado used to be noticeably smaller.
So I am curious to see if this still applies with the 250 vs 300 now that they are closer in size - with LC300 using more aluminum on the body.
Very curious to know how much it weighs.
In the past the Prado was always a better city daily driver + lighter in the sand dunes (If comparable engines) - but the Prado used to be noticeably smaller.
So I am curious to see if this still applies with the 250 vs 300 now that they are closer in size - with LC300 using more aluminum on the body.
I also am curious about the weights. Like you said , they are now very nearly the same size but the 300 uses more aluminum body panels. And (for the US), the hybrid system should add about 400-500lbs vs the 2.4T (non hybrid).
Reference weights for similar vehicles:
4Runner 4WD: 4750
GX 460: ~5200
LC J300: ~5700
LX 600: ~5800
Sequoia HEV 4WD: ~6150
If I had to guess, I’d say the US base LC250 1958 will probably be about 5400lbs with the hybrid. Not sure exactly where they will save all the weight vs the 300 … I suppose with no 3rd row, 2.4T lighter than 3.5TT, 8speed vs 10speed trans, less electrical motors for seats, adaptive suspension, etc.
Weight was always one of the most things that bothered the lc wagon engineers.
Each generation got heavier on average compared to similar trim level of previous gen.
Lc300 broke that and weighs almost 200 kg less but they had to because can you imagine how much it would have weighed without the weight loss once you start adding the hybrid system...which is coming.
Each generation got heavier on average compared to similar trim level of previous gen.
Lc300 broke that and weighs almost 200 kg less but they had to because can you imagine how much it would have weighed without the weight loss once you start adding the hybrid system...which is coming.
My 2019 power wagon might have weighed 7k from the factory, but with rock sliders, extra skid plates(transmission and front diff), topper, and every-day gear, it’s 8k.
Nice looking rig an I really like the Power Wagon, BTW. Nothing against the weight of a Power Wagon, it's really a knock on Toyota for such heavy SUVs compared to a 3/4 ton tuck with solid axles, much more wheelbase, frame stiffness, payload and towing capacity, etc.
My GX with sliders/skids/drawers/tools is around 5200 pounds on the scales at the local dump. Not too bad at all.
My LC300 GX (base version with 1GR ) weighs almost around the same as your modded GX.... but my 300 is completely stock.
As per the GCC Spec brochure - The highest LC300 sold in the Middle East unloaded weighs 2300kg ( 1GR minimal specs ) and the heaviest LC300 - fully loaded diesel/Petrol twin 6 weigh around 2600 - 2645kg.
Mid spec version would be around half way 2400/2500kg range.
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before land cruisers came to existence the Power Wagon was one of the first trucks to cross the deserts of arabia.
2,400 kg/5,300# is not too bad at all. Perhaps the US weights are just heavier for the LX600 due to the luxury features. Either way it's just too heavy. In high school I had a 1972 Chevy truck with a 127" wheelbase that weighed a whopping 3,800# empty. Vehicles have just gotten too big and bulky at the expense of fuel economy, braking, acceleration, etc.
Once SUVs eclipse the 6,000# mark (in my opinion) they start looking less attractive than a HD pickup which is vastly more capable on a pound-per-pound basis (despite being bigger and undoubtedly worse off-road).
Thanks! Yeah it’s a great truck, just thirsty and big (tough to drive on a lot of trails). The weight definitely starts building up on them once you add some upgrades and armor, though I suppose it’s not any different on a Land Cruiser.
What year is your GX? Lexus says their curb weight on a 2023 is 5200# fresh off the lot
Mine's an oldie, 2007. Stock curb is 4800# or so. Sliders and skids are 150 pounds or so, drawers and tools are maybe 150-200#.
Was at North Amertican HQ in Plano for a LC250 event yesterday.
They still do not have a final configuration yet. Fuel tank size is still TBD. They also walked back the 27mpg number that was released. Stated vehicle availability would be April 2024, and pricing and final configs would be released by end of the year.
Did you engage with mainly marketing people or where there any Product Planning or Japanese Vehicle Engineering folks there to interact with as well?
None from Japan. Engineers were there in addition to the marketing folks.
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Was this for LC250 or both?
