I use the 678 w/o a thermostat. In the winter I block my cooler 2/3 of the way with a sheet of rubber. Otherwise, it will get down to a max temp of only 120F or so, which just seems to cold. In the summer with the TCC locked it usually runs ambient temp plus 80-90 degrees or so, so 170F is a typical summer temperature for it.
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Do you have your thermostat pinned on the passenger side of the transmission @ the puck?
I was thinking of getting the mountain passes bracket but came across this from Kaon:
Transmission Cooler Kit to suit Toyota Prado 150
Transmission Cooler Kit to suit Toyota Prado 150 1KD & 1GD - KAON
www.kaon.com.au
I have a 698 sitting in the garage to install. -3° tomorrow night and then single digits for high so not in any hurry to install it. But would like to install it before winter is over so that I can determine if I am going to need to block it in the winter. Only have ~5 months of winter left to do it LOL. Hoping that I don't have to block it but it is common up here, external cooler or not.
I was told the factory trans thermostat would be enough to prevent overcooling of the Hayden 678. Once I get back home and can get the phone I use to monitor temps I'll see if I need to. Hoping I won't.
FYI, this doesn’t say that it fits the 1UR. I wouldn’t take the nearly $500 risk to see if it does.Do you have your thermostat pinned on the passenger side of the transmission @ the puck?
I was thinking of getting the mountain passes bracket but came across this from Kaon:
Transmission Cooler Kit to suit Toyota Prado 150
Transmission Cooler Kit to suit Toyota Prado 150 1KD & 1GD - KAON
On another note, I have the mountain passes off-road bracket and the Hayden 678 and they work great.
Do you have your thermostat pinned on the passenger side of the transmission @ the puck?
I was thinking of getting the mountain passes bracket but came across this from Kaon:
Transmission Cooler Kit to suit Toyota Prado 150
Transmission Cooler Kit to suit Toyota Prado 150 1KD & 1GD - KAON
I have the Mountain Passes bracket sitting in the garage as well as the Hayden. I looked at the Kaon but in the end am more comfortable with the Hayden. And the price with the Mountain Passes bracket plus Hayden is a lot cheaper and don't feel the Kaon adds anything over that combo.
Kinda looks like what I was going for here. My version was about four bills cheaper. I don't think that the factory warmer/bypass even opens until around 190. @Acrad may be able to contribute but I think the system works fine in colder climates. I don't think blocking your cooler will have any effect unless you have pinned to bypass.
I have a 470 so it does not have the thermostat.Do you have your thermostat pinned on the passenger side of the transmission @ the puck?
I was thinking of getting the mountain passes bracket but came across this from Kaon:
Transmission Cooler Kit to suit Toyota Prado 150
Transmission Cooler Kit to suit Toyota Prado 150 1KD & 1GD - KAON
It's pretty easy to DIY a bracket out of steel or alluminum flat stock. $440 is a very high price for something so simple. The 678 is like $55 on Amazon.
here’s my diy bracket
Exactly. My 678 required one aluminum bracket that I made with some scrap so $50 in parts plus the fluid. $400 is crazy for what looks like the same cooler.
Anyone with a bench vise, hammer, drill, angle grinder, and crescent wrench can make a bracket
. I welded one up for my 470 but could have easily done so with bolts instead of welding.Maybe I'll start making brackets for 470s/460s and selling them on the side as a kit for cheaper than others! I've been looking for an excuse to start a LLC.
EDIT: This is for my 470 - not a 460 - but is how I plumbed a Magnefine filter into my rig. I had it ran with just 3/8 trans cooler line but didn't like that the line felt a bit "pinched". This uses 304 SS 90 degree hose barbs that I bought online. A better way to do this would be to have 2 pieces of custom-bent hard line and 4 short hose connectors to the cooler and the lines that go back towards the transmission. But, this works pretty good, and I think it should flow-freely inside the SS fittings. I'm hoping to keep my trans fluid cleaner and push changes out to 50K or so.
I love the bracket idea. I have already put together a little kit for myself with the mountain passes bracket and installed it on my 460 and was thinking about a more oem approach for the wife’s.Anyone with a bench vise, hammer, drill, angle grinder, and crescent wrench can make a bracket
Maybe I'll start making brackets for 470s/460s and selling them on the side as a kit for cheaper than others! I've been looking for an excuse to start a LLC.
With being a teacher and the kids getting older, I’ve thought about putting kits together for the 470/460 in my free time. If you actually make a bracket I’d love to see it, the mountain passes at $150 still seems expensive for what it is.
I have about 4 different LLC ideas right now and have not pulled the trigger on any of them
. It'd be worth it just for a tax break, honestly. I know quite a few people who have them and they are all very successful for lowering your tax burden.
r2m
Richard
I too have have an LLC (Monetti - https://www.monettillc.com/ ) with the main product being a tactical flashlight I've invented (I have a patent pending on it) but can't get the couple hundred thousand dollars for all the tooling to kick it off! I've created a working prototype that works awesome.I have about 4 different LLC ideas right now and have not pulled the trigger on any of them
Anybody have a few hundred thousand dollars ($$$,$$$'s) laying around and need something to spend it on??? PM me!!
Probably easier for you as a device designerI too have have an LLC (Monetti - https://www.monettillc.com/ ) with the main product being a tactical flashlight I've invented (I have a patent pending on it) but can't get the couple hundred thousand dollars for all the tooling to kick it off! I've created a working prototype that works awesome.
Anybody have a few hundred thousand dollars ($$$,$$$'s) laying around and need something to spend it on??? PM me!!
. A bit harder for me as someone who works on "big" things and doesn't necessarily have 3D design experience for smaller items.
I've basically tabled any thoughts of adding a trans cooler since I installed the CSF radiator. It's over 50% thicker than OEM. I think that has to help trans temps somewhat.
Since my coolant temps never budge over 180 now, I'd think trans temps are likely to run about 200-210. I don't have a trans temp gauge. Are you guys reading trans temp off OBD or have you added a separate gauge? I'm not aware of a factory temp sensor, but it stands to reason there might be since there's a thermostat....
Since my coolant temps never budge over 180 now, I'd think trans temps are likely to run about 200-210. I don't have a trans temp gauge. Are you guys reading trans temp off OBD or have you added a separate gauge? I'm not aware of a factory temp sensor, but it stands to reason there might be since there's a thermostat....
I use a scangauge 3 (scanguage 2 can do the same) and monitor transmission pan temp (AT temp 1), and torque converter tempt (AT temp2). it's based off factory sensors.
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Unfortunately my little Autel code reader and data monitor thing doesn't see or catch trans temps IIRC. I'd really like to go to a scanguage type of setup but what I really want is a nice OLED MFD with configurable multi-gauge....
r2m
Richard
I too use OBDII Link.
