FJ's collector paid $35000
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Bear
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Thank-you for sharing this.
It does bring up a few interesting questions.
I know many in the KSA prefer to keep as much plastic shipping wrappings and labels on their trucks to prove newness--this truck still has marks on the differentials and other places indicating it was checked either in the factory or upon final assembly at the dealer.
Here in the USA, trucks came with body color paint on most of the bolt heads--the doors, the bib hinge, the tailgate hinges, and the windshield hinges of the earlier trucks. The ones pictured are not painted--leaving me to believe either they have been replaced or the trucks were shipped with them off the vehicle and those parts were assembled at the final destination(dealer).
Secondly, sometimes individuals will refinish items and try to pass them off as being unused new, or replace single items with new components to create an overall effect of the total item being brand-new. I hope your collector friend truly has found an unused total vehicle.
Regardless, it is in immaculate condition; so also look the others in that storage area. They all look to be GCC/KSA or Omani spec. The price seems more than fair for even a low-mileage truck, and would seem to be a great bargain if it truly is brand-new--how would you price anything like that if it is brand-new?. If so, it should go into some kind of museum, and Toyota should be willing to pay a hefty price for obtaining it if the collector is willing to part with it, which I doubt.
While the cardboard seat covers, etc., help prove its newness, once photographed I would think removing them would improve the overall display esthetic, but cultural differences between our countries may require otherwise. If you get another chance to photograph ANY of the vehicles in the collection, many of us would be thrilled to see some interesting photos of the past when things were truly showroom fresh.
Thanks again.
It does bring up a few interesting questions.
I know many in the KSA prefer to keep as much plastic shipping wrappings and labels on their trucks to prove newness--this truck still has marks on the differentials and other places indicating it was checked either in the factory or upon final assembly at the dealer.
Here in the USA, trucks came with body color paint on most of the bolt heads--the doors, the bib hinge, the tailgate hinges, and the windshield hinges of the earlier trucks. The ones pictured are not painted--leaving me to believe either they have been replaced or the trucks were shipped with them off the vehicle and those parts were assembled at the final destination(dealer).
Secondly, sometimes individuals will refinish items and try to pass them off as being unused new, or replace single items with new components to create an overall effect of the total item being brand-new. I hope your collector friend truly has found an unused total vehicle.
Regardless, it is in immaculate condition; so also look the others in that storage area. They all look to be GCC/KSA or Omani spec. The price seems more than fair for even a low-mileage truck, and would seem to be a great bargain if it truly is brand-new--how would you price anything like that if it is brand-new?. If so, it should go into some kind of museum, and Toyota should be willing to pay a hefty price for obtaining it if the collector is willing to part with it, which I doubt.
While the cardboard seat covers, etc., help prove its newness, once photographed I would think removing them would improve the overall display esthetic, but cultural differences between our countries may require otherwise. If you get another chance to photograph ANY of the vehicles in the collection, many of us would be thrilled to see some interesting photos of the past when things were truly showroom fresh.
Thanks again.
whitey45
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That is amazing, I would pay 50k for that beauty! I agree with you Bear, that the trucks were shipped broken down and required assembly, hence the shiny hardware! This truck could serve as a great reference for late model restorations!
landcruisers hate being in museums
Yeah no way it is all original and unrestored. It is probably all restored as new. We would see rust and whatnot on undercarriage bolts if they had been anywhere for 30 years.....
If it is restored...I want that bloke to come and finish my '68.
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
Bear
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Very likely, the owner is a sheikh with a huge collection of cars and the money to support them and their restoration and upkeep.
Would be nice, wouldn't it ?
Would be nice, wouldn't it ?
JohnnyC
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one of the FST's has replaced rims ... and both have replaces spare rims... canvas has what looks to be nylon straps on the left one... the video kinda brushed over them
Mr FJ55
200 series GXR V8 Diesel 2015 Twin Turbo
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Hi Bear
yes you are right some people (teenager) they prefers to keep some shipping plastic as it's .
It's the feeling for first new car they owned .
Regarding the bolt not painted .
most of the dealers here are requesting the trucks half assemble to reduce the
labor cost in JAPAN
here is FJ45 1978 with all doors and half of the cabin in the box
boozewz
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@Mcladin went and saw those. He visited the actual show room. Those trucks have been restored meticulously.
The really good restorers here in KSA even go the extra mile to make the boxes/crates and leave the vehicles in semi stripped condition just as they came from the factory 3 decades ago. Just like you see those "factory markings" on the axles etc. Pretty sweet if you ask me. As long as you don't fall for the trick and think its actually a new truck. They're not.
The really good restorers here in KSA even go the extra mile to make the boxes/crates and leave the vehicles in semi stripped condition just as they came from the factory 3 decades ago. Just like you see those "factory markings" on the axles etc. Pretty sweet if you ask me. As long as you don't fall for the trick and think its actually a new truck. They're not.
Bear
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Thought so.
JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
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JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
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JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
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Bear
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Wow. And to think I have been called obsessive/compulsive.
It's certainly interesting what collectors collect and want, and the lengths to which they will go:
Over the years I have had difficulty seeing why a collector values the box a Barbie doll came in, more than the doll itself.
Why a Beanie Baby loses all its value when the cardboard ear tag is removed, or the new electric train set never opened in sixty years, the box still factory sealed.
And now, why the truck with cardboard on its seats and plastic wrap on the door panels is worth more than the truck without them.
To artificially make crayon marks to replicate quality control marks made on the assembly line, and wooden packing crates to appear "just as shipped," is personally beyond my level of appreciation. But....... to each his own taste, and what makes you happy.
Just so................the next time one of you guys comes over to my house and asks to use the restroom, and finds I have installed the new toilet with the cardboard packing box around it, you'll know I have finally reached ....collector heaven. Then please, go outside to conclude your business !
Bear out.
It's certainly interesting what collectors collect and want, and the lengths to which they will go:
Over the years I have had difficulty seeing why a collector values the box a Barbie doll came in, more than the doll itself.
Why a Beanie Baby loses all its value when the cardboard ear tag is removed, or the new electric train set never opened in sixty years, the box still factory sealed.
And now, why the truck with cardboard on its seats and plastic wrap on the door panels is worth more than the truck without them.
To artificially make crayon marks to replicate quality control marks made on the assembly line, and wooden packing crates to appear "just as shipped," is personally beyond my level of appreciation. But....... to each his own taste, and what makes you happy.
Just so................the next time one of you guys comes over to my house and asks to use the restroom, and finds I have installed the new toilet with the cardboard packing box around it, you'll know I have finally reached ....collector heaven. Then please, go outside to conclude your business !
Bear out.
would pay $35K for any of those restored 4X
Toyota bubble wrap on the floors.....pretty sure they did not ship like that
I have some gun boxes that are worth as much or more than the gun inside them.......crazy stuff
Toyota bubble wrap on the floors.....pretty sure they did not ship like that
I have some gun boxes that are worth as much or more than the gun inside them.......crazy stuff
47coeman
Love those 45's
Having been on this planet for some 60 plus years and have been involved with cars at least 50. The car people have ramped up the collector level immensely lately. I do enjoy seeing and appreciate this type of hype and to each there own in this sport. That is why we all don't drive Chevys or fords, be a dull world. Myself I like to drive um my 45 is a driver not perfect but good looking and that is the way I am going to keep it, well maybe a good paint job in the future. Anyhow TNX for listening and enjoy this sport plenty for us all. Best
merbesfield
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Definitely looks beautiful and nearly perfect, but I have never seen a Cruiser w chrome or stainless hood and windshield latches. Were these offered new or is this a "tell" that it is restored? I don't see any pitting on any of the frame parts. Usually, even if repainted you will see pitting. Unless someone takes the time to fill them prior to applying paint finish.
