FJ62 engine swap: 12HT or Cummins 2.8

[jakerudy]

As for myself I have wanted to do a diesel swap practically since I bought the cruiser; a big part of why I wanted diesel was the reliability and the fuel cost advantages. I certainly wouldn't swap one purely to save on fuel, but the way I saw it was if I was going to do a swap anyway virtually anything would have more power, so I may as well get the best mpg I could get as well.

All that said now with diesel being higher, and often a good bit so, than gas around here that aspect is basically not much of a factor at all anymore. As for the reliability aspect I still think an all mechanical diesel is tough to beat, but I can get pretty damn close with the right gasser. I've simply put far too many miles on gas trucks now with very little mechanical issues to believe otherwise, and all the advantages of more power, better parts availability, etc are all still there.

I'm not arguing anything you guys have said; just up late with a sick little girl and bored so thinking out loud so to speak.

I've heard nothing but good about the LS swap in numerous trucks & cars - it seems to be a great gas engine. If I were going to do a gas swap it would be my choice, and I have never owned a Chevy.

My farm truck / tow rig is an '01 Dodge with a 24V Cummins. Daily driver is a FJ60 with a 12V Cummins. IMO the 5.9 Cummins is the best engine ever stuffed into a light duty truck. Is the 6BT more than you need in a FJ60? Yes. Is it more than you want? Depends on your expectations and desires. Mine isn't going anywhere until I'm too old to drive.

 

[tclark]

I've heard nothing but good about the LS swap in numerous trucks & cars - it seems to be a great gas engine. If I were going to do a gas swap it would be my choice, and I have never owned a Chevy.

My farm truck / tow rig is an '01 Dodge with a 24V Cummins. Daily driver is a FJ60 with a 12V Cummins. IMO the 5.9 Cummins is the best engine ever stuffed into a light duty truck. Is the 6BT more than you need in a FJ60? Yes. Is it more than you want? Depends on your expectations and desires. Mine isn't going anywhere until I'm too old to drive.

Oh for sure, it's a fantastic engine and one I'd like in nearly any larger vehicle; if I still had my old 80's Suburban I'd likely swap one in. But for my 60 I simply have no interest in a SOA or 4-5" lift so it's not even worth entertaining the idea for me personally; I want to keep it to no more than a couple inches of lift and more of a DD/camping/hunting type rig than a hardcore offroader.
I'm not knocking anyone's choices here, just conversing and sharing my views and hopefully learning more about engine options along the way.

 

[Bazooka]

Sure, but how much can you get out of them without affecting reliability? The 1HZ was only ever NA from the factory right? It's been a while since I read up on the Toyota diesels. It's just interesting that so many rail on the power of the 2/3F, yet would kill to have a Toyota diesel with roughly the same output.

The 1HZ is plentiful over here and many of them reliably run an aftermarket turbo kit. There's a few manufacturers of these kits out there but quality kits all claim around a 40% increase in power and torque.

 

[tclark]

The 1HZ is plentiful over here and many of them reliably run an aftermarket turbo kit. There's a few manufacturers of these kits out there but quality kits all claim around a 40% increase in power and torque.

That's a nice power bump.

 

[Bazooka]

Well lets put it this way. I can supply a complete 1HZ conversion package for around $8000AUD, add to this an aftermarket turbo kit between $3-4000AUD. Being mechanical makes them easier to convert and considering the 1HDFTE conversions are 13-14K AUD to supply really makes them a good contender in all categories of price, power and ease of swap.

 

[Seth S]

8000aud is about 6000usd.

 

[tclark]

8000aud is about 6000usd.

That's quite a deal compared to most costs I see quoted!

 

[NearJetties]

That’s probably before shipping

 

[tclark]

That’s probably before shipping

Likely, but I see numbers waay higher than that thrown out for basic domestic V8 swaps.

 

[Bazooka]

That’s probably before shipping

Yes you would have to add freight to that. A quick calculation and expect it to be around the $10500USD for a 1HZ package, turbo kit (giving you about 180hp) and shipping. Would work out cheaper if I shipped a few at a time. Group buy anyone???

 

[boerboel313]

What are your thoughts on the weight of the 6bt in either a 60 series or 80 series? They are heavy engines at right around 1,000 lbs.

What does the 2f weigh?

 

[Seth S]

2F Motor Weight?

What does the 2f weigh?

Somewhere between 600 and 750 lbs