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Lift-
Dobinson
C59-542 front 2” springs
GS59-688 front shocks
C59-545 rear 2” springs
GS59-682 rear shocks
1/4” front strut spacer (1)
SPC UCA

Tires-
285/70r18 Ridge Grapplers

Bumpers-
Stock

Amount of lift-
Front 2”
Rear 3”

Advantages / disadvantages-
Still rides smooth and quiet
2k installed
I’ll drop down to the 535 springs In the rear if it doesn’t settle. Have to load 200lbs in the back to get into the garage.
With removed mud flaps, I’m only rubbing on the KDSS bar drivers front when reversing at full lock.
1.25 Bora spacers on order

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I'm interested in some sort of price range for the various lifts - like $1k, $2 to 4k, $5k+
Well my set up is pretty straight forward
OME 2" lift with 2722 rear coils.....................$$3,000.00 ish
SPC UCA 669.00
Labor for install 800.00 ish
Alignment 125.00

Then whatever wheels and tires you go with 2,200.00 ish
 
I'm interested in some sort of price range for the various lifts - like $1k, $2 to 4k, $5k+

I've got just under $3k in my Tundra swap doing the work myself, but renting a lift bay to do it. This is with SPC upper arms, factory strut spacers, fancy rubber bumpstops, wheel spacers for the rear, OEM tundra struts, and 2721 rear springs. All parts were new except the tundra struts.
 
On BP-51s, the Front Driver (US) side resi bracket.

It has never fit. I add a bit of a bump out above he two bolt holes. Then I “un-bend“ the original 90° bend a tad. It fits perfect then.

If you don’t add these bends, the bracket mashes into a Toyota bracket. Then it also allows the resi to rub on a cooling line. It’s not a good design.

Below is after I changed the angles, but before I coat it so you can see the bend lines.
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Hope this helps guys fitting BPs get a better finished install.
 
Also, on rear
BP-51 stem hardware.

The first couple years came with correct hardware. Then out of nowhere, BPs went from only having one washer with a lip, to two washers with lips.

Notice the factory stem that has only one lip washer. This is critical, because if you put two miles washers up in the frame, the lips mash, but the washers remain with some standoff.
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So if you don’t reuse some of the factory washers, or call ARB, you’ll hear a metallic band sound every time you go over a bump. That the two lipped washers slapping the frame.

I let ARB know a couple years ago, then again a year ago, so they are tracking. But I still keep having these incorrect fit kits show up. I just have ARB send me the correct hardware, and everything is good to go.
 
Also, on rear
BP-51 stem hardware.

The first couple years came with correct hardware. Then out of nowhere, BPs went from only having one washer with a lip, to two washers with lips.

Notice the factory stem that has only one lip washer. This is critical, because if you put two miles washers up in the frame, the lips mash, but the washers remain with some standoff.

So if you don’t reuse some of the factory washers, or call ARB, you’ll hear a metallic band sound every time you go over a bump. That the two lipped washers slapping the frame.

I let ARB know a couple years ago, then again a year ago, so they are tracking. But I still keep having these incorrect fit kits show up. I just have ARB send me the correct hardware, and everything is good to go.

This might explain the sound I have been getting intermittently from the rear. I was able to duplicate the sound by manually cycling (pushing up and down on the bumper) the rear suspension. I was e-mailing with Christo about it since his shop did the install last year and I think he was alluding to this as the possible fix. Then for some reason I stopped hearing it.

Just so I am clear, is the fix to just replace the upper ARB lipped washer with the OEM washer or do you need to swap the upper bushing also (neither of which I have anymore).
 
This might explain the sound I have been getting intermittently from the rear. I was able to duplicate the sound by manually cycling (pushing up and down on the bumper) the rear suspension. I was e-mailing with Christo about it since his shop did the install last year and I think he was alluding to this as the possible fix. Then for some reason I stopped hearing it.

Just so I am clear, is the fix to just replace the upper ARB lipped washer with the OEM washer or do you need to swap the upper bushing also (neither of which I have anymore).
You swap the lipped washer on TOP of the frame. Super easy to do in your driveway.
 
@Taco2Cruiser thanks for posting this! I have BP-51s on a 200 I bough and have that dreaded squeak in the rear. I have heard before it had something to do with the BP-51s, but I been stalling tearing things apart.

You’re saying ARB will ship the correct washer?
 
You swap the lipped washer on TOP of the frame. Super easy to do in your driveway.

In your photo, it look like the Iipped washer was the same side as the shock, which would put it BENEATH the frame?

Want to make absolutely sure before I tear thighs apart. Thanks!
 
You swap the lipped washer on TOP of the frame. Super easy to do in your driveway.

Thanks. Seems pretty easy. Just need to pop the top nut and replace the washer in question. No need to jack up the vehicle or remove the shocks.
 
2018 LC 200 11,000 on her when I bought, at 11,400 miles I installed lift.

I choose this lift on the proven facts it works and also it's a smaller lift.

OME BP 51 2 "
SPC UCA
2722 rear coils +3/4
295/65/18 tires on stock wheels that will be powder coated next week.
Front is set at 2"
Rearis about 3/8 higher than front empty
The SPC UCA made the alignment a complete breeze on the first try
The ride is deff not as plush as stock and rides more like a truck now, I only have very few miles on it since the lift so I am going to play around with the compression and rebound settings soon

If anyone can give me good tips on what are good settings that would be great.
The 295/65/18 is a true 33" tire and 11.6 wide, I did have some rubbing on the front side when hard over in reverse but is was able to
fix that issue no problem.

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2018 LC 200 11,000 on her when I bought, at 11,400 miles I installed lift.

I choose this lift on the proven facts it works and also it's a smaller lift.

OME BP 51 2 "
SPC UCA
2722 rear coils +3/4
295/65/18 tires on stock wheels that will be powder coated next week.
Front is set at 2"
Rearis about 3/8 higher than front empty
The SPC UCA made the alignment a complete breeze on the first try
The ride is deff not as plush as stock and rides more like a truck now, I only have very few miles on it since the lift so I am going to play around with the compression and rebound settings soon

If anyone can give me good tips on what are good settings that would be great.
The 295/65/18 is a true 33" tire and 11.6 wide, I did have some rubbing on the front side when hard over in reverse but is was able to
fix that issue no problem.

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I have the same color LC200, but a 2015. Thanks so much for the info and pics! Brian
 
Also, on rear
BP-51 stem hardware.

The first couple years came with correct hardware. Then out of nowhere, BPs went from only having one washer with a lip, to two washers with lips.

Notice the factory stem that has only one lip washer. This is critical, because if you put two miles washers up in the frame, the lips mash, but the washers remain with some standoff.
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So if you don’t reuse some of the factory washers, or call ARB, you’ll hear a metallic band sound every time you go over a bump. That the two lipped washers slapping the frame.

I let ARB know a couple years ago, then again a year ago, so they are tracking. But I still keep having these incorrect fit kits show up. I just have ARB send me the correct hardware, and everything is good to go.

Replaced the top lipped washer with the old stock washer today. Bird chirps are gone!
 
2018 LC 200 11,000 on her when I bought, at 11,400 miles I installed lift.

I choose this lift on the proven facts it works and also it's a smaller lift.

OME BP 51 2 "
SPC UCA
2722 rear coils +3/4
295/65/18 tires on stock wheels that will be powder coated next week.
Front is set at 2"
Rearis about 3/8 higher than front empty
The SPC UCA made the alignment a complete breeze on the first try
The ride is deff not as plush as stock and rides more like a truck now, I only have very few miles on it since the lift so I am going to play around with the compression and rebound settings soon

If anyone can give me good tips on what are good settings that would be great.
The 295/65/18 is a true 33" tire and 11.6 wide, I did have some rubbing on the front side when hard over in reverse but is was able to
fix that issue no problem.

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I came across this forum while searching for info associated with lifting my 2017 TLC. I want to use the stock wheels, so I'm searching for the "right" lift/tire combination. I saw the pictures of your vehicle and think it looks great. Thinking to do exactly same setup. You mentioned that you had some rubbing when turning hard in reverse. Can you tel me how you remedied that problem? Tx
 
I came across this forum while searching for info associated with lifting my 2017 TLC. I want to use the stock wheels, so I'm searching for the "right" lift/tire combination. I saw the pictures of your vehicle and think it looks great. Thinking to do exactly same setup. You mentioned that you had some rubbing when turning hard in reverse. Can you tel me how you remedied that problem? Tx
Yes, It is very simple to remedy. You can use a heat gun. I did not no that at first so what I did, Is I went underneath and upfront of the tire and undid a few bolt, unscrewed them, pushed the panel forward then resrt screws in new location, stupid easy
 
Yes, It is very simple to remedy. You can use a heat gun. I did not no that at first so what I did, Is I went underneath and upfront of the tire and undid a few bolt, unscrewed them, pushed the panel forward then resrt screws in new location, stupid easy
Thanks, very much appreciated.
 
Heavy Load 2" Lift Kit
with UCA
Part: ARB1208
Kit Includes:
1 x Pair SPC-25465 SPC Adjustable Upper Control Arms
2 x OME2723 Rear Coil Springs
2 x Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Sport 61029 Rear Shocks
2 x Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Sport 91005 Front Struts
2 x OME2703 Front Springs
1 x OME661 Shock Guards - Pair
1x 25mm Diff Drop.
275/70/18 Toyo AT2

* Rides fully different, like a truck, firm, solid and tough. This "heavy" set up will change it quite a bit imo. While it will still have the accouterments of a luxury vehicle, it will no longer ride as plush as one, no longer looking like a bloated highlander. However once weighted accordingly, things will adjust even again.

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Super Nice!! Congrats!!
 
What lift did you select?

Tough Dog 45mm adjustables, standard spring rates. Firestone air bags in the rear as well.

Do you have front and rear bumpers?

Front winch and bumper. Warn VR12S and Trail Tailor

How much lift did it give you?

Stupidly I did not take pre-lift measurements. However after settling this lift appears to provides about 2" up front and 1.5" in the rear.

Post-lift measurements:
FL: 22 7/8"
FR: 22 3/8"
RL: 23 3/8"
RR: 23 3/8"


What are the advantages/disadvantages of this lift that led to your selection?

It's a good value lift. Half the cost of Kings or BP-51s, but more adjustability than stock OME or Ironman FCP. I particularly appreciate how I've been able to adjust the compression over time as my build changed as well as to stiffen it up in about 30 seconds when I load up and add a trailer with 900# tongue weight.

Reason someone else should or should not select this lift

It's not as plush at all speeds as (my limited experience with) King's are.

Different people on the forum have had varying experiences with lean introduced by the rear springs. Swapping the rear springs (L<->R) tends to resolve the issue for those who experience it, but the issue doesn't seem to happen consistently.

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What lift did you select?

LXs can be lifted working with the built in AHC system. Or the AHC system can be deleted and fitted with any other LC applicable suspension as documented by others. Mild to wild including adapting Tundra front suspension and bracket lifts while maintaining or deleting AHC has been proven by others.

I opted to work with the built in AHC system for its breadth of capability on-road, off-road, and everything in between. Including towing an 8,000lb trailer needing about 2,000lb payload. Tires are an integral part to overall lift and suspension and IMO, a better handling and higher capability rig can be built with large tires and minimal suspension lift. Too much suspension lift compromises geometry, handling, bump steer, etc.

1" and .75" F/R sensor lift. Added front shock spacer and rear spring spacer, not so much for lift, but to maintain and increase payload, and add to front suspension travel. Also added rear airbags to see how much farther I can take AHC.


Do you have front and rear bumpers? Changes the lift selection

No bumpers, but do have Slee sliders. Keeping it lightweight so I can maximize performance and ensure high payload handling capacities. My preference is to minimize the need for bumpers and underarmor with large overall lift capabilities to reduce contact sports.


How much lift did it give you?

Short answer, suspension alone 3". With tires 4.75". Lift doesn't sag with the rig loaded for trips as AHC is constant height.

This is done with mild AHC sensor lifts of 1" front and .75" rear, and 35x12.5 tires.
Front Hub to FenderRear Hub to FenderFront Ground to Fender (includes tire)Rear Ground to Fender
(includes tire)
Stock AHC "N"19.0"20.75"33.5" (stock tire)35.125" (stock tire)
Stock AHC "H"21.0"23.125"35.5" (stock tire)37.5" (stock tire)
Sensor Lifted AHC "N"20.0"21.5"36.15" (35x12.5s)37.5" (35x12.5s)
Sensor Lifted AHC "H"22.0"23.875"38.15" (35x12.5s), 4.65" total lift39.9" (35x12.5s), 4.75" total lift
Sensor Lifted AHC "Extra High" (projected)22.75"24.625"38.9" (35x12.5s), 5.4" total lift40.65" (35x12.5s), 5.5" total lift


What are the advantages/disadvantages of this lift that led to your selection?

Much of the advantage comes from core goodness and broad dynamic nature of AHC; adaptable for heights, damping, and dynamic control. Rides as plush off the factory floor with load range E tires. Has monstrous lift capability to peg out the suspension if you want to setup that way with no added cost, though I much prefer mild lifts to have good droop travel which potentially matters more for overall articulation. Hunkers down on the freeway for better high speed stability, CV wear, and MPG. Factory validated durability with anecdotes of it going well into 250k. Onboard maintainable with 60k flush intervals. Augmentable for huge payloads. Adjustable height for hitching up, loading, and ease of ingress/egress.


Reason someone else should or should not select this lift

AHC is what makes the 200-series, for me. Coming from the 100-series with AHC, there was no doubt in my mind that it is also what I wanted in the 200-series. It's more robust, has more payload, and enables great performance in the span of ways I use my LX. I haven't found a limitation of the system yet where it did not perform. Including Baja type running on extended washboards, the suspension and tires just eat things up. After 40 hard miles, hydraulic shocks were barely warmer than ambient, which I chalk up to the large fluid volumes, remote damping, and large surface area of the system.

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Hey, sorry to crash the party but didn't want to start a new thread for almost the same question:

Where is a good place to source OME BP51 2" lift kit for 200 series w/ KDSS and does anyone actually stock these? Have heard that ARB is backordered at least a few months.

Same with sliders - Slee, BudBuilt and White Knuckle are are out several months on orders. Any alternatives with available stock?

Thanks!
 
Hey, sorry to crash the party but didn't want to start a new thread for almost the same question:

Where is a good place to source OME BP51 2" lift kit for 200 series w/ KDSS and does anyone actually stock these? Have heard that ARB is backordered at least a few months.

Same with sliders - Slee, BudBuilt and White Knuckle are are out several months on orders. Any alternatives with available stock?

Thanks!
Have you talked to Slee, Cruiser Outfitters and I know there are other vendors on here that sell BP51 but can't think of them?
Also to your point about White Knuckle they make sliders once they are ordered.
 

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