FAQ Thread Options for lifting a 200

[Romer]

This is not a chat thread, you can ask clarifying questions on what a lift provided someone. This will be a compilation thread defining different lift options available. The following are my suggested post options. Feel free to add additional information you feel is relevant

What lift did you select?
Do you have front and rear bumpers? Changes the lift selection
How much lift did it give you?
What are the advantages/disadvantages of this lift that led to your selection?
Reason someone else should or should not select this lift

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[Romer]

What Lift did you select? I selected the OME Lift

• OME 2723 - REAR COIL
• N61029-S OME 61029 NITROCHARGER SPORT SHOCK - REAR -
• N91005-S 91005 OME Nitrocharger Sport - Strut - FRONT -
• OME2703 OME 2703 - FRONT COIL - Medium 2" Lift -
• OME661 OME 661 -Rear Shock Guard for 200 Series Shocks -
• SPC-25465 SPC Adjustable Upper Control Arms -

Do you have front and rear bumpers?

• I have front and rear ARB Bumpers. I also have ARB Storage drawers filled with tools

How much lift did it give you?

• About 2" of lift

What are the advantages/disadvantages of this lift that led to your selection?

• I debated between this one and the BP-51 which was much more expensive. I am not the type of person who would adjust their lift like the BP's give you capability to do. This is essentially the same lift I had on my 100 series and I was fine with that after 5 years of wheeling.
• With the weight I have I may want an additional 1" of lift and will investigate that further. The current lift has worked fine for Moab and Colorado wheeling. The rear bumper does drag in a few places, but that is what armor is for

Reason someone else should or should not select this lift

• High speed desert racing or lots of baja likely will want to better shocks with the reservoirs. This lift is a good basic lift though for most people

 

[Mogwai]

Thanks @Romer for starting this, will get my info posted later. Wondering if an accompanying database similar to the tire/wheel DB would be a better way to consolidate this data? This could be in addition to this thread. Would be nice to post real live lift measurements, but that would require some standards be set so everything is apples to apples.

Consider adding a yes/no question around Tundra IFS so folks can hone in more quickly on setup since Tundra options/setups would be different.

 

[Romer]

People can add what data they would like. If someone wants to create a database they are more then welcome to. Remember, being a moderator is a volunteer position. Based on work, I don't have as much time to spend on Mud as I would like.

 

[TexAZ]

I went with the Tundra "long arm" conversion paired with Icon VS 2.5 coilovers and OME springs w/Icon shocks in the rear.

• Icon VS 2.5 Adjustable coilovers with reservoir
• SPC tundra Upper control arm
• Tundra Lower control arm, CV shafts, and tie rod ends
• Landcruiser factory 10mm strut spacer - front
• 80 series 10mm coil spacer - rear
• OME 2722 - REAR COIL
• Icon VS 2.5 non reservoir land cruiser shocks- REAR -

Do you have front and rear bumpers?

• I do not have front or rear ARB Bumpers, or Storage drawers

How much lift did it give you?

• About 3.8" of lift front/ 2.5” lift rear

What are the advantages/disadvantages of this lift that led to your selection?

• The primary advantages of this lift are: Increased stability from added track width, longer wheel travel, greater clearance from KDSS and sway bars, less extreme CV angles
• The disadvantages of this lift are the price and install time. The added track width does slightly increase the turning radius. Wheel selection is limited to lower offset wheels if you want to keep the tires inside the wheel wells

Reason someone else should or should not select this lift

• I personally love the way my truck handles in town and on the trail. The Icon shocks are phenomenal for making the truck firmer, but not harsh. I run a combination of high desert trails, bumpy sand/dirt track, and mountainous trails in Colorado and the Icons smooth out the bumps at speed and flex like no other in the rocks.
• If you have the patience to source the parts through craigslist, ebay and local shops, the kit can be assembled for under 3K. It is pricey and time consuming to install, but the end result is the best handling 200 you can drive.

My write up contains the parts need and prices ( going used when possible).

200 Series Lift using Tundra front IFS and Icon shocks

 

[blatant]

Heavy Load 2" Lift Kit
with UCA
Part: ARB1208
Kit Includes:
1 x Pair SPC-25465 SPC Adjustable Upper Control Arms
2 x OME2723 Rear Coil Springs
2 x Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Sport 61029 Rear Shocks
2 x Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Sport 91005 Front Struts
2 x OME2703 Front Springs
1 x OME661 Shock Guards - Pair
1x 25mm Diff Drop.
275/70/18 Toyo AT2

* Rides fully different, like a truck, firm, solid and tough. This "heavy" set up will change it quite a bit imo. While it will still have the accouterments of a luxury vehicle, it will no longer ride as plush as one, no longer looking like a bloated highlander. However once weighted accordingly, things will adjust even again.

 

[TRAIL TAILOR]

Heavy Load 2" Lift Kit
with UCA
Part: ARB1208
Kit Includes:
1 x Pair SPC-25465 SPC Adjustable Upper Control Arms
2 x OME2723 Rear Coil Springs
2 x Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Sport 61029 Rear Shocks
2 x Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Sport 91005 Front Struts
2 x OME2703 Front Springs
1 x OME661 Shock Guards - Pair

1x 50mm Diff Drop.

275/70/18 Toyo AT2

What was the point of the 2" lift with a 50mm-- 2" diff drop?

 

[blatant]

Fixed it, 25mm. Reducing the severe angle of the cv's is a good thing.

 

[TRAIL TAILOR]

Fixed it, 25mm. Reducing the severe angle of the cv's is a good thing.

OK

J

 

[Tremek]

The thing I would most like to hear is about the on-road ride quality of these lifts:

Has it improved? Gotten worse? I get the impression that on the lower-end OME kits, the ride itself becomes far more firm/harsh/less compliant, and things like expansion joints are far more severe and uncomfortable.

Would love to know if you-reviewers feel like things like body roll is improved or worse, whether impacts are harsher or softer, whether nose dive under braking is better or worse, etc. Thanks!

 

[Romer]

I had essentially the same lift on my 100 series and after 5 years it still was fine. I didnt notice anything different

 

[Tremek]

You were definitely far braver than I on the descent from Red Cone last year too, so I know you believe in that lift and it's serving you well. I'm trying to get ahead of spousal complaints about ride quality as it's primarily 'her' car.

 

[Drew Hall]

Hey Gents,

I did the following lift:
BP-51 coilover struts upfront
OME 2724 springs in the back with a 10mm trim packer
BP-51 shocks in the back.

The ride height is about 3" more up front and 4" in the back. I will be adding bumpers front and back and a 180L reserve tank to replace the 33L sub tank in the back. Hence the extra height and 400kg springs in the back.

I'll post again when I get my front bumper in the next couple of weeks.

The ride is stiff but it would be difficult to bottom out particularly in the back. Most of my wheeling is in the sand so not bottoming out is a major concern on steep dune exit angles and short slip faces.

I'm thinking I will need to replace the UCAs but will wait until I have the ARB Summit Bumper on the front to see if it is still toed in.

Any suggestions on future suspension mods are welcome. Currently im thinking Icon Billeted UCAs and Icon Billeted lower trailing arms should work well. I'm not sure about dropping the diff, any advise is welcome.

My LC does get driven hard in the dunes and i have had a few oops I think I just lost contact with the ground moments so I want to make sure the suspension can handle it. My wife says i temporary lost contact with my sanity...

 

[Markuson]

Those 2724's must be awfully stiff while you wait for addition weight in back!

I'll be adding 2724's soon, but with somewhere around 650 pounds in back...

A little jarring for now, I'd guess?

 

[Drew Hall]

Those 2724's must be awfully stiff while you wait for addition weight in back!

I'll be adding 2724's soon, but with somewhere around 650 pounds in back...

A little jarring for now, I'd guess?

I'm isn't as bad as you would think. Not much stiffer than the 2013 TRD Tundra I had in the states. Definitely fun to blast over big speed bumps knowing there is no way you will bottom out.

 

[sptxlc]

Heavy Load 2" Lift Kit
with UCA
Part: ARB1208
Kit Includes:
1 x Pair SPC-25465 SPC Adjustable Upper Control Arms
2 x OME2723 Rear Coil Springs
2 x Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Sport 61029 Rear Shocks
2 x Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Sport 91005 Front Struts
2 x OME2703 Front Springs
1 x OME661 Shock Guards - Pair
1x 25mm Diff Drop.
275/70/18 Toyo AT2

* Rides fully different, like a truck, firm, solid and tough. This "heavy" set up will change it quite a bit imo. While it will still have the accouterments of a luxury vehicle, it will no longer ride as plush as one, no longer looking like a bloated highlander. However once weighted accordingly, things will adjust even again.

@duggy what do you think of this build bro? I really like the way the truck sits, and of course its looks to be super leveled.

 

[stithis]

Any update on riding heavy load springs unloaded on the road?

 

[Fishinsea]

2018 LC 200 11,000 on her when I bought, at 11,400 miles I installed lift.

I choose this lift on the proven facts it works and also it's a smaller lift.

OME BP 51 2 "
SPC UCA
2722 rear coils +3/4
295/65/18 tires on stock wheels that will be powder coated next week.
Front is set at 2"
Rearis about 3/8 higher than front empty
The SPC UCA made the alignment a complete breeze on the first try
The ride is deff not as plush as stock and rides more like a truck now, I only have very few miles on it since the lift so I am going to play around with the compression and rebound settings soon

If anyone can give me good tips on what are good settings that would be great.
The 295/65/18 is a true 33" tire and 11.6 wide, I did have some rubbing on the front side when hard over in reverse but is was able to
fix that issue no problem.

 

[grinchy]

I'm interested in some sort of price range for the various lifts - like $1k, $2 to 4k, $5k+

 

[TeCKis300]

Nice! You made quick work of that from decision, then right off to the races.

Trucks looking goood. That tire size looks great on her. Well done!