Early Green starter, gear needed

[Spring Grover]

Hey all. I've got an original green starter from a `67 I parted and would like to put in my `66. The drive gear is pretty beat up and tore up the ring gear on the flywheel. My local starter guy says he'd have to make that gear on the starter. Hoping someone has one in pieces, looking to part out? A shot in the dark, idk how many of these are laying around still. He said also, look for a spare solenoid as it's not re-buildable. I'm looking to purchase both if someone's got parts for these.

 

[charliemeyer007]

That gear is rough for sure. If you can't find one, I'd bet it could be welded up and filed back to serviceable, but that's just me. Back in the late 80's I took my solenoid apart apart an filed the big copper contacts and the washer flat again so it would make proper contact and let the amps flow properly. Still works fine. Around that same time I took my turn signal mechanism apart. I used microbed epoxy and filled in the burned away material around the copper contacts which I also dressed at the same time. Yea still works.

 

[whitey45]

Post in the fj25 section at the bottom, you will get some response!!

 

[Spring Grover]

Post in the fj25 section at the bottom, you will get some response!!

I'll try that Whitey, thanks.

 

[Pighead]

I wonder if @pardion has one...

 

[peesalot]

Can you flip the gear around on the shaft ? Like what Charlie did on the solenoid contacts.
If not x2 on Pardion. Is that gear specific ? or could you use a gear from a later starter ?

 

[Spring Grover]

Can you flip the gear around on the shaft ? Like what Charlie did on the solenoid contacts.
If not x2 on Pardion. Is that gear specific ? or could you use a gear from a later starter ?

I brought the starter to a local shop, Dusty's DC. If you're in north IL., he's the guy to work on all things DC. When a guy like that starts laughing at your 60 year old Japanese starter on the work bench, you know it's bad! According to Dusty, the gear is not reversible, it is in fact on big piece that extends back into the unit. He did say he could have one made at a machine shop, but Lord knows for how much. I have a good working starter on my `66, I'd prefer the original.
He says none of the parts on these starters show up in his database. And although he has mountains of used spare parts, there isn't one part to fit this Japanese starter.
So there it is. I'm not a starter expert, but he is. It seems the only way to fix it is to have another unit on hand for parts. Surely, some one has this gear in a Folgers can on the shelf somewhere!

 

[trainbufftony]

Get a different starter guy.
All of these parts are common and still available.
Solenoid, gear, all of it.
I think your boy is seeing $$$ signs.
He's gettin greedy.
The parts he's claiming only a machinist can make are being turned out by the thousands in china....
Every starter shop relies on these parts and he's got to know that.
He probably knows something else too... Which is that for owners of enthusiast vehicles, the hinges on their wallets are lubricated with the finest synthetic lubrication.

 

[65swb45]

There are plenty of enthusiasts with older, more collectible vehicles with less options. What do they do? Probably pay someone with welding skills to weld teeth back on the Bendix.

I have welded teeth on a flywheel, and on a transmission gear. Mostly a matter of patience.

 

[charliemeyer007]

I don't like to argue with folks that have actual hands on - but I think your guy is full of himself. I'd be looking elsewhere for less expensive help. Some welders are way better than others - you want the person that has done this type of repair many times SUCESSFULLY, not the new guy that thinks he knows how to do this.

 

[3_puppies]

Can you flip the gear around on the shaft ? Like what Charlie did on the solenoid contacts.
If not x2 on Pardion. Is that gear specific ? or could you use a gear from a later starter ?

the gear is part of the big round thing behind it, part of the bendix?, so not reversable that I can see,

 

[3_puppies]

There are plenty of enthusiasts with older, more collectible vehicles with less options. What do they do? Probably pay someone with welding skills to weld teeth back on the Bendix.

I have welded teeth on a flywheel, and on a transmission gear. Mostly a matter of patience.

I had to weld a teeth back on a sprocket out in the field to get a truck unloaded, wasn't pretty, I did it fast, but it worked.
it would have been better to take my time in the shop, but that wasn't an option.

 

[65swb45]

I had to weld a teeth back on a sprocket out in the field to get a truck unloaded, wasn't pretty, I did it fast, but it worked.
it would have been better to take my time in the shop, but that wasn't an option.

My grandfather, my father and my uncle were all jewelers. My grandfather used to repair the tiny cogs on wind-up watches. So it just comes naturally

 

[charliemeyer007]

My dad was a watch maker, a good mechanic and a great welder. He could fix nearly anything without a chip or being made of wood. His middle name was Joseph - and he always said Joseph was a poor carpenter.

 

[Spring Grover]

There are plenty of enthusiasts with older, more collectible vehicles with less options. What do they do? Probably pay someone with welding skills to weld teeth back on the Bendix.

I suppose if there's no option, you do what you have to. Going back to my guy, had to do just that to fix some obsolete starter recently. There's always an option. For now, the truck starts and runs just fine. This can sit on the bench for awhile until something comes along. Isn't that the way of vintage cars anyway? Patience always pays off, takes some years to finally grasp that.

 

[peesalot]

Mark didnt say he didnt have one

 

[Krondor]

For those who are much more knowledgeable than I am, Are any of the parts off a slightly later starter swappable?

 

[trainbufftony]

For those who are much more knowledgeable than I am, Are any of the parts off a slightly later starter swappable?

Either that or identical to american counterparts. Yes...