jemsec
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Has some serious possibilities. Hope to see a finished version soon as I'm getting ready to buy a rear bumper from someone. Sure would like to have a fourth one to consider.
Dissent offroad modular rear bumper.
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On the first page of the thread I asked to see a bumper that flowed with the lines of the 100.
You killed it. The current after market bumpers available offer a shelf-like bumper with a 90 degree line angle as it approaches the rear wheel .. your bumper has a subtle dissending (see what I did there
) angle heading down from the rear of the bumper to the wheel well and if you continued that line with your eye it would flow into (or intersect) the rocker panel of the body (where your sliders are). you get what Im saying?Looking great.
Cant wait to see it with swings out.
This will likely be unnecessary as most will have a tire carrier but do you have an opening in the bumper for the tool to remove the under mounted spare in case your running the bumper without the swing outs?
Edit: nevermind - l think i see it
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Ben, your designers eye is spot on once again IMHO.
I'll be saving my beans and look forward to your final version and release.
I'll be saving my beans and look forward to your final version and release.
benc
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Thanks guys!
The 100 series is actually quite difficult to get good lines! The frame is so much lower than the body and is completely flat, this is why you typically see uniform 90 degree angles. Mine hits the frame at a 90 but the extra bend I put there gives the allusion that the bumper angles up at the rear,
The end result is a much better look! And a little more clearance at the outer corner. From the side view you can really tell how little the bumper sticks out. This is because of the rear crossmember being removed, if the crossmember were to remain the bumper would have to stick out a good 3-4 inches more. This doesnt look to bad with swing outs but IMHO looks goofy without them. Another detail you will notice is the finished corners at the bottom corners at the tail gate, this is another detail I have yet to see on any other offerings and has always bothered me. Most other bumpers are 90 there and don't fit the contour of the tail gate, this is another thing I knew I had to address to look right without the swingouts. It was a little tricky with how the tailgate swings when opened but doable with the extra 45 angle back to the tailgate.
I have mentioned it before but will say again, I know a lot of you tow often with your 100 series my self included, a big focus on this bumper is towing capability and convenience! I towed a Trailer about 4500 miles to HIH and had to connect and disconnect the trailer often and remove the receiver. On my current setup the trailer pin was behind the bumper and proved difficult to remove while caked with mud! I knew I didn't want the set up again. This is the reason for the recessed towing accommodations, everything is right out in the open easy to get to and out of the way.
I think one advantage I have while designing this bumper is I own a 100 series, I tow with a 100 series, I offroad with a 100 series, my wife and I have both daily driven a 100 series and I overland a 100 series. I know what is needed for the the rear bumper to be practical, functional and convenient for all of these things while looking good at the same time.
Thanks for all the support and kind words! Can't wait to see the rear bumpers on your 100s and being used for what they are built for.
The 100 series is actually quite difficult to get good lines! The frame is so much lower than the body and is completely flat, this is why you typically see uniform 90 degree angles. Mine hits the frame at a 90 but the extra bend I put there gives the allusion that the bumper angles up at the rear,
The end result is a much better look! And a little more clearance at the outer corner. From the side view you can really tell how little the bumper sticks out. This is because of the rear crossmember being removed, if the crossmember were to remain the bumper would have to stick out a good 3-4 inches more. This doesnt look to bad with swing outs but IMHO looks goofy without them. Another detail you will notice is the finished corners at the bottom corners at the tail gate, this is another detail I have yet to see on any other offerings and has always bothered me. Most other bumpers are 90 there and don't fit the contour of the tail gate, this is another thing I knew I had to address to look right without the swingouts. It was a little tricky with how the tailgate swings when opened but doable with the extra 45 angle back to the tailgate.
I have mentioned it before but will say again, I know a lot of you tow often with your 100 series my self included, a big focus on this bumper is towing capability and convenience! I towed a Trailer about 4500 miles to HIH and had to connect and disconnect the trailer often and remove the receiver. On my current setup the trailer pin was behind the bumper and proved difficult to remove while caked with mud! I knew I didn't want the set up again. This is the reason for the recessed towing accommodations, everything is right out in the open easy to get to and out of the way.
I think one advantage I have while designing this bumper is I own a 100 series, I tow with a 100 series, I offroad with a 100 series, my wife and I have both daily driven a 100 series and I overland a 100 series. I know what is needed for the the rear bumper to be practical, functional and convenient for all of these things while looking good at the same time.
Thanks for all the support and kind words! Can't wait to see the rear bumpers on your 100s and being used for what they are built for.
benc
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Got some parts tonight. One more prototype and the main bumper will be dialed and then onto the swingouts. Should be able to start production by mid-end of March. I was debating on making the swing arm brackets bolt on as well but I think I will be welding them on instead, one less area to move around, it really doesn't look bad with the brackets in place and the swing arms removed. Let me know what you guys think.
BamaHeel
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Are the wings that face the rear tires "capped" or open? I know this was a point of dispute in a prior thread comparing Slee to BIOR offerings.
Very nice bumper... I want one! Where are you located? I might road trip down to America to buy one. I'm also interested to learn about the weight of the bumper.
Man, you're making this Slee fan boy really think hard about which bumpers to go with!
Nice!!!
Any pics of frame mount brackets?
Would there be a chance of doing the connection bracket on the inside instead of out?
Any pics of frame mount brackets?
Would there be a chance of doing the connection bracket on the inside instead of out?
benc
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Thanks! I will be working on the frame brackets tomorrow, I had to get the shell dialed in first. Right now it's just mocked up but you can kind of see what it will be like. There will also be one more mounting point I the center to the inside of the frame and a new crossmember that ties the receiver to the frame directly.
The biggest reason I did the caps on the outside is it gives about a 1/2" adjustability on the wings. If I were to build it with the caps on the inside the wings would have to but up tight to the center section and there would be no side to side adjustment, with no side to side adjustment I would have to build the bumper with much lager tolerances. With the cap how I have them it will allow the owner to fine adjust the bumper to there vehicle giving a custom fit on a production bumper. I understand some will not like the bolts but I think once they see the bumper in a while and the purpose that the serve it will make sense.
The biggest reason I did the caps on the outside is it gives about a 1/2" adjustability on the wings. If I were to build it with the caps on the inside the wings would have to but up tight to the center section and there would be no side to side adjustment, with no side to side adjustment I would have to build the bumper with much lager tolerances. With the cap how I have them it will allow the owner to fine adjust the bumper to there vehicle giving a custom fit on a production bumper. I understand some will not like the bolts but I think once they see the bumper in a while and the purpose that the serve it will make sense.
Looking forward to see the finished product!
That is a work of art, nice! I bummed I don't have 100 series to hang one off of.
benc
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This question has come up more than once and likely will come up more do I will post the answer here about the removal of the crossmember.
The way most all LC models are designed is with a built in bumper/tow crossmember, so technically the cross member acts as the bumper that the bumper cover attaches to. We are not removing anything that we will not be replacing with something stronger. The new bumper will have a built in crossmember that will replace the factory one.
I suppose the downside would be resale and installation will take a little more time, The cross member could be welded back In place or even a new one can be purchased if there was ever a need to go back to stock.
I don't have any pics but if you take a look under your rig it's the curved crossmember at the very back of the frame.
Hopfully that clears some stuff up for you but feel free to ask if you have any other questions.
The way most all LC models are designed is with a built in bumper/tow crossmember, so technically the cross member acts as the bumper that the bumper cover attaches to. We are not removing anything that we will not be replacing with something stronger. The new bumper will have a built in crossmember that will replace the factory one.
I suppose the downside would be resale and installation will take a little more time, The cross member could be welded back In place or even a new one can be purchased if there was ever a need to go back to stock.
I don't have any pics but if you take a look under your rig it's the curved crossmember at the very back of the frame.
Hopfully that clears some stuff up for you but feel free to ask if you have any other questions.
WOW! Best looking Hundy bumper on the market, IMHO. I'll be anxiously awaiting the final product but I believe you've eliminated Slee and BIOR from the running for me. Your swing out mounts don't do it for me however. I probably won't remove the swing out but if I were to I prefer the look of the spindle to the brackets. Even if leaving them on I prefer the look of spindles. With as pretty as the rest of your bumper is, the bracket just looks like an afterthought. Not trying to offend, just my opinion. If final product is bracket as pictured could optional spindle mount be possible?
Thanks, and awesome work again!
Thanks, and awesome work again!
benc
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Thanks.
I really have to sway away from the single sheer spindle hinge if I'm going to use the oem slam style latches. I like the strength and rigidity of the dual shear hinge! The brackets in the pics are just what comes with the hinge, I will likely be building my own brackets the go with the bumper. The spindle could be a custom option but wait till you see my final design before you make the decision.
