Dirtdobberoffroad's 82/85/86 build (1 Viewer)

[dirtdobberoffroad]

Ok so I got every thing pulled out of and off of the cab of the 82 and ready to remove the cab but before I start that I was going to work on the dash swap while it was still on the 2wd frame and lower to the ground. I put the cross bar up where its supposed to go and it hit the steering wheel mount (see attached photo) for the 1st gen it is also the brake pedal bracket. Ive seen a picture of a dash swap in a trekker that they just cut the steering wheel mount off and left the pedal bracket in place but I thought since I have the pedal assembly from the 4 runner I would install that and just unbolt all the 1st gen brackets. but the pedal assembly out of the 4 runner is about 3/4 of an inch wider than the holes in the fire wall of the first gen.

Should I cut the fire wall to make the 4 runner assembly work or just cut the 1st gen pedal bracket to clear the 2nd gen dash bar?

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

so here is the problem with the 2nd gen pedal assembly on the 1st gen fire wall. I think Im going to stick with the 1st gen pedal brackets.

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

the plate that attaches the steering column to the fire wall on the 2nd gen steering column is a little larger and only three holes line up. I thought about drilling the holes out and using a nut and bolt to fasten it to the fire wall. I took the plate off of the 1st gen column but I cannot figure out how to get the one off of the 2nd gen column without cutting a section out.

Can you take the steering column apart to get the plate off.

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

Got the holes drilled in the dash plate that attaches at the windshield and got that bolted in, got the holes punched and threaded on the a-pillar for that plate I also got 1 hole drilled and tapped on each side on the A-pillar for the cross bar bolted the steering column to it so I could mark the rest of the holes in crossbar. I also couldn't help it I sad the whole dash on the cross bar just to see what it would look like. I need to work on the HVAC system now. The SR5 seat is just in there to see if the steering wheel was pushed too far back.

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

I forgot how small this truck is. I will be installing the tilt column from the 86 so I hope that does not shove the wheel any closer to the driver.

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

Here is a link to every thing that was done before I found Mud!

dirtdobberoffroad's 1982 Pickup Build-Up Thread - YotaTech Forums

 

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

I modified my 4Runner seat rails to move the seat back some. Mine went about 4 inches back which would be too much for you in the single cab I think, but maybe you could do a couple inches to get some leg room?

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

Im a little tall for the truck 6'3 or so and the seat I had in there for mockup was just that, I will be using the bench seat from the 86 in it if need be I can do some mods to move it back but I can actually sit pretty comfy in the little truck. my biggest concern it that using the tilt column from the 86 it will put the wheel further back.

 

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

If the tilt column has to be custom mounted, maybe you can adjust some of that? I've never done a column swap...

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

well if I can figure out how to get the plate that bolts the column to the firewall swapped it would be no problem the one off the first gen came off easy but the second gen does not come off that easy due to the u joints on the steering shaft.

 

[ferg]

If you want to be 'farther' from the steering wheel use an earlier style. They are 'flatter' than the 84-88 style. I use an '80 T style in my Xcab.

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

tried doing some fitting with the HVAC system over the long weekend and I just could not get motivated! Fishing on my mind! I can see Im going to have problems with it though.... might have to cut a step out of the channel under the windshield.

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

I just put the brakes on this for a bit after finding a trashed diesel engine that looks a lot like the 22r so Im doing some research and this is the most info I have found plus I found a company that makes and adapter to put it on a w series trans with a 22rte flywheel.....


http://www.dieselarmy.com/news/diesel-swaps-what-about-a-kubota-heres-how-it-can-be-done/

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

So with this engine and the oil pan off of a bobcat Im afraid my axle will be in the way even after notching the oil pan, so the suspension is going to have to change taller lift and move the axle forward. One good thing with the diesel is the oem 4.10s will be perfect for 35s so no gear change needed. according to Grim Jeepers calculator 410s and 35s will put me at 2000rpm in O.D. at 60mph with the 35s and that is where the Kubota finds its best torque numbers. So with the Kubota its the same size and weight as the 22re, with a turbo make the same hp but twice the trq, 25-35 mpg, all mechanical engine controls. I think on paper I have fallen in love with the engine. Im on the look out for a used one locally now that is not in bad shape.

 

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

Would it be possible to rotate the engine slightly to gain some clearance?

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

Im not 100% sure on the needing to move the axle forward but it appears I would need too. as deep as the bobcat oil pan is I think you would lose clearance by tilting it sideways, the refrigerant units have a shallow pan but its wide I do not have a measurement on them but I think they do not have the capacity.

 

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

There is not a lot of room in the front of these things. I just finished a 3 link conversion on my 85. Everything is tight!

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

yeah if I can push the axle down and forward that would make a little more room Ive looked at a ton of pictures of OME suspension and man its tight with only 2" of lift, but the guys that have done the RUF lets a lot more light through.

 

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

You can re-drill the spring mount holes on the axle spring perch to gain another inch or so. I ended up notching my frame some for room for the tierod. It's tight for sure!

 

[dirtdobberoffroad]

I cannot find dimensions of the 22r/re but the v2203 Kubota is 25.67 long, 26.60 tall with the bobcat pan, and 19.02 wide, all minus the turbo set up.