Cruise Moab 2012

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Ummm, let me think. Tobascofish thought about it. Bought a sweet Chevy engine. Put a lot of time and money into said engine. Then sold his 80.

Dan has been talking about a Mopar transplant into his. He just keeps talking.

I have seen a diesel dropped into an FZJ80, but it was a Toyota engine.

Clearly, if you want a non-Toyota engine into an 80 series you will most likely be treading on virgin ground. Replace the head gasket. Call it a day. Ash has done it. Onur has done it a bunch, and is probably only beat out by Robbie on the number of hg jobs. 80-series head gasket jobs are about as common as oil changes in 80's. The 80-series is the only Toyota I know of where replacing the head gasket is considered preventive maintenance. It will also let you easily replace the PHH while in there and killing two 80-series maladies at once.

:popcorn:

John,

Just keep driving the thing and don't worry about the HG issue. If you don't have any water loss, drive it like you stole it!
 
John,

Just keep driving the thing and don't worry about the HG issue. If you don't have any water loss, drive it like you stole it!

:lol:

Ash is a great salesman. :lol:

John's going to drive it like he stole it, it's going to get worse, the block deck is going to get warped, then John is going to get talked into going 4.6L over size by Onur, and then Ash is going to convince John to have Ash and I work on the thing, and buy his parts from me....

And the next thing you know, John is divorced, living in my spare bedroom, and building a 4.6L 1FZ-FE in my back porch.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

So, yeah, John....drive it like you stole it.

:grinpimp:
 
It will also let you easily replace the PHH while in there and killing two 80-series maladies at once.

Don't you have some dents to pound out or a driving class to take or a 22RE to get running or something else productive to do that doesn't involve pi$$ing off 90% of your fellow HDCers?

:flipoff2:

-Mike-
 
The head is already warped. It's a freaking long I-6 head - guaranteed the ends of the heads are at different level than the middle. If he ain't losing coolant or running hot, heck ya, abuse that biotch.

John and I gonna stick in an Atlas I-6 engine in that slug. Booyah.
 
John and I gonna stick in an Atlas I-6 engine in that slug. Booyah.

That that would be cool. I want to do the same, but only in an early 40's Chevy or GMC pickup.
 
:lol:

That's so classic.

With all of this work I don't have any time for my projects!

:lol:

Copy Shawn.

well the solution is simple. turn down all that work, then you have no money and all the time to stare at your projects and do nothing with them... damned if you do, damned if you don't....
 
that's right! Onur, the guy that bought it wants to know if you can rebuild it for him. no joke. I saw him last week. email me about it.

hmmm does he want to buy two more FZ's? i will have 2 here in a bit ;):p

if he put all three in his ride he'd have a pretty good all-around motor!
 
sl33p3 said:
hmmm does he want to buy two more FZ's? i will have 2 here in a bit ;):p

if he put all three in his ride he'd have a pretty good all-around motor!

In all actuality, since I told you months ago on one of your part pickups that you should just do the hg job since you were already going in deep, you should just pull the head, throw a new hg into it, put everything back together, do the CM trip then start on your engine swappy thing this summer.

I have a spare new HG that you can have for cheap.
 
In all actuality, since I told you months ago on one of your part pickups that you should just do the hg job since you were already going in deep, you should just pull the head, throw a new hg into it, put everything back together, do the CM trip then start on your engine swappy thing this summer.

I have a spare new HG that you can have for cheap.

i recall that visit. i believe you called you and ali the dynamic go spend your money duo. :lol: and all i was doing was alternator brushes, rad hoses, cap, rotor, plugs, wires, pcv, oil cover seal, thermostat, front and rear oil seals, all before a week in DEATH valley... never touched a valve cover bolt, let alone the depth of "HG for the fun of it." that being said, the only way moab would happen this year IS a hg fix only and then move onto swap. part of my hesitation to do that was just the fact i have 197k on that motor and while it seems fine, it really should be gone over hard, and a hg isn't a small job, not huge, but not small... idkwtftd... sigh.

thx for the offer, the bottom of this lowball glass may have "do the HG, dumbass" written in it, and if it doesn't maybe the next one will ;) i'll be in touch.
 
, you should just pull the head, throw a new hg into it, put everything back together, do the CM trip then start on your engine swappy thing this summer.
X2 :doh:
 
I've done CM twice.

First time was Fins-N-Things, Poison Spider Mesa, and Steel Bender.

Second time was Tip-Toe Behing the Rocks, Hell's Revenge, and Wipe Out Hill.

Out of all those the only two that were of any difficulty in spots were Steel Bender and Hell's Revenge. The other trails were just fun days on the trail with the family, and even had Han behind the wheel on some, and all day on Wipe Out Hill. I'll agree with the others that FNT isn't challenging, but still a fun trail if you haven't been to Moab before.

I'm not sure if we'll be going this year or not, Han might be pregnant by then and I don't think she'll want to endure day(s) on the trails.
 
Fins-N-Things is not a hard trail. I've run it over the years in my 40/60/80. As mentioned the two hardest spots can be bypassed but a stock LC (any series) is capable of both obstacles. But a wagon will want some sort of rear protection for the extreme departure angles. A trailer hitch works great you don't need a full bumper.

Personally I feel Fins is a great trail for the first timer to Moab as it gets your feet wet on the traction characteristics of the slickrock without the exposure of other trails to make you nervous. That and its just plain fun.
 
Jennie was 8 months preggers for CM way back, gawd, 11 years ago?




I've done CM twice.

First time was Fins-N-Things, Poison Spider Mesa, and Steel Bender.

Second time was Tip-Toe Behing the Rocks, Hell's Revenge, and Wipe Out Hill.

Out of all those the only two that were of any difficulty in spots were Steel Bender and Hell's Revenge. The other trails were just fun days on the trail with the family, and even had Han behind the wheel on some, and all day on Wipe Out Hill. I'll agree with the others that FNT isn't challenging, but still a fun trail if you haven't been to Moab before.

I'm not sure if we'll be going this year or not, Han might be pregnant by then and I don't think she'll want to endure day(s) on the trails.
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Sounds like a good way to induce labor!

didn't work for Jill. we went on a xmas tree run when she was due with Kian the next day. still didn't come along 'til the next week.

that is a great pic John.:D
 
Trails?

So is anyone hoping to do a particular trail? Just curious, always good to see familiar faces. Aj
 
Koko is a two night overnighter and starts on Tuesday directly from the trail head on the CO/UT boarder off I-70. Tech inspection is done at the trail head by the trail leader. You'll need to be able to carry extra fuel. If your going through Moab earlier in the week Tech could be preformed if someone is available but there will not be scheduled inspections done at SRCG until Wednesday.

So is that a Monday - Tuesday overnight and be back to Moab Wednesday during the day?
 
So is that a Monday - Tuesday overnight and be back to Moab Wednesday during the day?

Leaving from trail head Tuesday morning, returning to Moab on Thursday.

From Cruiser Moab web site: Cruise Moab - Toyota 4x4 event in Moab, UT

The Kokopelli 4x4 trail is a 150 mile long route that closely follows the popular mountain biking trail, with the exception of a few places that aren't passable in a 4x4. It covers a huge variety of terrain, ranging from easy 2 track to technical, traversing large washes, then rocky climbs and descents. The elevation also ranges from low desert to a high mountain alongside the La Sal mountains.

This will be 3 days and 2 nights on the trail, that will start at Rabbit Valley 10:00 AM Tuesday morning. Day 1 will include Castle Rocks, Bitter Creek, Westwater Ranger station, and onto Fish Ford where camp will be the first night. Day 2 will be a long day in the saddle. Highlights will include Cisco wash, Yellow Jacket canyon, Dewey State Bridge, Top of the World and the infamous Rose Garden Hill. Camp will be at our permitted area near the top of Onion Creek which is RESERVED this year. Day 3 will include Hideout Canyon, Thompson Canyon, a stretch along the La Sal mountain road, returning to Moab via the Sand Flats road (Gateway to the Porcupine Rim, Hell's Revenge, and Fins & Things trails).
 
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