Christo Slee's disjointed comment and pictures Thread

[Snook]

Christo,

Please don't say that your unnamed SAS rig will self-destruct in 15 weeks at UA event?

Regards,

 

[sleeoffroad]

That is way pimp.

Glad you got off your ass and did this.

Hey I told you at Pismo we are going to do it. 6 Months later is not bad

John, it is 5" of UP travel as measured between the axle tube and frame. I did not say anything about down travel.

 

[1loudLX]

hahahahaha

 

[ats4x4dotcom]

I think we are not on the same page. The bumper we want to do is for more serious off-roading. I have never seen a light that is mounted in the wings of a bumper last.

Hey, John, latest N74L modification , seriously, that is the shock we are running in the rear

Let me know when the right length shock you need is required, if the white ones I sent you cant be fitt4d at the top

 

[i4c4lo]

The guy is freaking hilarious and can jump a rental FJ Cruiser at Surf & Turf! hahaha

 

[Greg B]

You might not get all of them. The 12k kills the deal. I am looking at the Warn powerplant thought. I might have a very rough prototype on the truck for Moab. We are doing Ultimate Adventure in June and Warn is a big sponsor, so I am hoping to get my hands on the Powerplant to incorporate it in the design.

My wish list includes (in this order)
1. High and tight - great clearance and approach angle
2. Integrated recovery points
3. Lightest weight as possible but still durable
4. 9K winch is fine
5. Integrated front skid plate
6. No brushbar - or short one like on Short Bus bumper
7. Mounts for a set of off-road lights

As far as the Powerplant goes, I was looking at my ARB mount this weekend and the grill really gets in the way of taller winches. There is tons of room behind there just a grill to worry about. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

 

[Greg B]

Hey, John, latest N74L modification , seriously, that is the shock we are running in the rear

Did you lower the upper mount to run the N74L? I have them on my 100 and they don't allow that much drop on the stock mounts on mine?

That 100 is incredible. What front axle are you running, or is that top-secret? Also, what gear ratio are you running with the 39's, are they 4.88's or bigger?

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

John, it is 5" of UP travel as measured between the axle tube and frame. I did not say anything about down travel.

Ahhhh, gotcha.

 

[sleeoffroad]

My wish list includes (in this order)
1. High and tight - great clearance and approach angle
2. Integrated recovery points
3. Lightest weight as possible but still durable
4. 9K winch is fine
5. Integrated front skid plate
6. No brushbar - or short one like on Short Bus bumper
7. Mounts for a set of off-road lights

No 5 might not be integrated, but part of the plan. The rest is in-line with our ideas.

As far as the Powerplant goes, I was looking at my ARB mount this weekend and the grill really gets in the way of taller winches. There is tons of room behind there just a grill to worry about. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

They are big and once we get our hands on one we will evaluate and see if it is doable.

 

[sleeoffroad]

Did you lower the upper mount to run the N74L? I have them on my 100 and they don't allow that much drop on the stock mounts on mine?

We raised the lower mount about 5"

That 100 is incredible. What front axle are you running, or is that top-secret? Also, what gear ratio are you running with the 39's, are they 4.88's or bigger?

It is a Diamond housing, using 80 series outer ends, with 80 series rear diff in the front. 5.29 gear ratio.

http://www.diamondaxle.com/index.htm

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

No 5 might not be integrated, but part of the plan. The rest is in-line with our ideas.



They are big and once we get our hands on one we will evaluate and see if it is doable.

I know I'm asking for the moon.....however, here's my opinion:

The 100 isn't an 80 up front. The nose sticks out much farther. Taking an/your 80-series front bumper and redesigning it to fit the 100 will be an improvement....though will it be "enough" to offer a viable advantage over an ARB? Maybe, though I'd like to see:

1. Make a non-winch version in order to shrink the thing down.
2. Make it a mini/micro design....snugged in as tight to the frame as possible. If there's no room for light mounts then so be it....unless you could bolt a thin flat steel piece to the front of the bumper which would raise thelight up to where they're needed.
3. Have recovery points on the front (not bottom....where they could lessen approach)

The deal is that the 100 needs help. WHO SAID THAT? If somebody truly wants to get this series in the same EXTREME places the 80 can, then we need a shortened nose.
I know you'll design a bolt-on. A frame cut and bolt on would be even better in my opinion. That'll be my plan on 100 #2. Meanwhile, if YOUR front bumper offers a good advantage, I'll swap in onto Roklimo.

 

[sleeoffroad]

I know I'm asking for the moon.....however, here's my opinion:

The 100 isn't an 80 up front. The nose sticks out much farther.

Actually it does not. The grill, fenders and hood is way higher on a 100 than a 80. It is much easier to make a bumper with a better approach angle then the 80.

Taking an/your 80-series front bumper and redesigning it to fit the 100 will be an improvement....though will it be "enough" to offer a viable advantage over an ARB?

We use the same styling and what we have learned on strength, but it is designed from scratch.

Maybe, though I'd like to see:
1. Make a non-winch version in order to shrink the thing down.

For us that is a waste of time. We would sell 5 in a year.

2. Make it a mini/micro design....snugged in as tight to the frame as possible. If there's no room for light mounts then so be it....unless you could bolt a thin flat steel piece to the front of the bumper which would raise thelight up to where they're needed.

It nees to be tight, but you still want something that is a little away from the body to protect the body.

3. Have recovery points on the front (not bottom....where they could lessen approach)

They will be on the front.

I know you'll design a bolt-on. A frame cut and bolt on would be even better in my opinion. That'll be my plan on 100 #2. Meanwhile, if YOUR front bumper offers a good advantage, I'll swap in onto Roklimo.

You need to take your bumper off and look at the truck. There is 60mm of frame ahead of the body mount. That is it, barely enough to get a good solid bumper mount on it.

 

[Greg B]

We raised the lower mount about 5"

Ah, that makes more sense; you get the bottom of the shock out of harm's way and don't have that upper mount in the way, very cool.

It is a Diamond housing, using 80 series outer ends, with 80 series rear diff in the front. 5.29 gear ratio.

http://www.diamondaxle.com/index.htm

That front axle looks very beefy. Do you think the factory rear axle will hold up to 39's? Thanks for sharing this with us, this is a great project that many of us haved dreamt about for quite some time. Its very cool to see it actually happening.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

I know I'm asking for the moon.....however, here's my opinion:

The 100 isn't an 80 up front. The nose sticks out much farther.

Actually it does not. The grill, fenders and hood is way higher on a 100 than a 80. It is much easier to make a bumper with a better approach angle then the 80.



We use the same styling and what we have learned on strength, but it is designed from scratch.



For us that is a waste of time. We would sell 5 in a year.



It nees to be tight, but you still want something that is a little away from the body to protect the body.



They will be on the front.



You need to take your bumper off and look at the truck. There is 60mm of frame ahead of the body mount. That is it, barely enough to get a good solid bumper mount on it.

I'll use these responses when I get my 2nd 100.

1. Interesting info about the 100 bumper being higher. Sound good.
2. I was hoping on the non-winch style.
3. Don't laugh....but I don't care about the body protection "much". A wreck's gonna wreck it anyhow. I want aggressiveness as #1.
4. And yes....I've never seen my truck without the bumper on. Amando said once there's not a whole lotta room for cutting and getting creative. Until I get that 2nd 100 I might not know. Good info though Mr. Slee.

 

[sleeoffroad]

The rear axle is 32 spline. The outer ends where it goes through the bearing is about 2" in diameter. It is huge. I wheeled the ShortBus with 30 spline rear axles with 39's for a long time before I broke it. And even then it was due to a stupid driver move. Something I am pretty good at

 

[Greg B]

The rear axle is 32 spline. The outer ends where it goes through the bearing is about 2" in diameter. It is huge. I wheeled the ShortBus with 30 spline rear axles with 39's for a long time before I broke it. And even then it was due to a stupid driver move. Something I am pretty good at

Good to know, thanks. I'll save that for a future 80 vs. 100 thread. I kid, I kid!

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Good to know, thanks. I'll save that for a future 80 vs. 100 thread. I kid, I kid!

 

[pint]

That thing is completely insane Christo! I am so jealous...

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Slee: When you get back from Moab....shoot me a PM price for this truck? Thanks! Maybe it's a good thing I didn't buy your 80 pickup!

 

[Snook]

Christo,

Can I shoot high definition video of your SAS 100 at MOAB?

Be sure to have your SleeOffroad logo on your hood readable no matter what side you are on.

Cheers,