Can you guess what this is for?

[PAToyota]

When you were saying twice a year, I was going to say that was at oil changes. I thought about using it to poke a hole in the filter, but the bit about not using it in the past ten years threw me. Honestly, I haven’t worked on any vehicles newer than late 90’s (well, some very limited work on the girlfriend’s SUV), so I was totally unaware of the drain plugs on the newer filters.

 

[KLF]

let me get this straight: your punching your hole from the top of the engine? don't you have the little window in the passenger fender?

Yup, from the top. After draining, you can then just reach the filter from below, which you're down there anyway draining the pan. Yeah, I had the window by the starter, but getting that off pretty much requires taking the front wheel off. Which, yeah, I often had it off when rotating the tires anyway, but still, not really necessary.

When you were saying twice a year, I was going to say that was at oil changes. I thought about using it to poke a hole in the filter, but the bit about not using it in the past ten years threw me. Honestly, I haven’t worked on any vehicles newer than late 90’s (well, some very limited work on the girlfriend’s SUV), so I was totally unaware of the drain plugs on the newer filters.

I believe it was around '06-07 that Toyota changed the oil filters in their engines to the new cartridge element style. You buy just the element, and it comes with a pair of O-rings and the little plastic thingy for draining the filter. The element is in a reusable housing that screws off after you drain it (requires a special wrench, see photo). Some people don't like it, but I do. Some people don't like EFI either.

 

[pappy]

I believe it was around '06-07 that Toyota changed the oil filters in their engines to the new cartridge element style. You buy just the element, and it comes with a pair of O-rings and the little plastic thingy for draining the filter. The element is in a reusable housing that screws off after you drain it (requires a special wrench, see photo). Some people don't like it, but I do. Some people don't like EFI either.

My 1AR-FE has the cartridge filter. Put me down as a hater. I noticed your housing is metal. Mine is plastic.

I like EFI.

 

[KLF]

I found that photo on Google. The filter housing on the 5.7L 3UR-FE in my mighty Land Cruiser is plastic too, go figure. It will be swapped out for a metal one at the next change.

 

[ntsqd]

Wonder if I can spin one of those onto my 3.0L?

P/N's?

 

[KLF]

Nah, no way. Attachment is totally different.

 

[ntsqd]

I'm betting it can be done, just don't know if the effort is worth it. Does anyone have the p/n's for those parts? I'll start with that and go from there.

 

[KLF]

This is the one I used:

Genuine Toyota 15620-31060 Oil Filter Cap Assembly https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BHP68A?tag=ihco-20

You'll also need the plug that goes in the bottom.

Toyota 15643-31050 - Plug Oil Filter Dra https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TNNKTDI/?tag=ihco-20

 

[PAToyota]

Hmmm… What’s old is new again, heh?

I remember back in the late ‘80s there was a cartridge filter advertised in the back of magazines. I considered getting one. I’ll have to see if I can remember the name. It does make a certain amount of sense - less hazardous material to dispose of for an oil change.

 

[KLF]

Yes, and I also like that you get the chance to inspect the pleats of the filter membrane, see if there's anything there that shouldn't be. With the canister filters, it's caught inside and a messy job to cut it open.

 

[ntsqd]

I now see why KLF's comments, and I agree. Could be made to work, but not worth my trouble. Not a fan of single-pointing threads on a lathe.

Amsoil offers a by-pass filtration system. I know it exists and that is all that I know about it.

System 1 offers a reusable SS mesh oil filter, as does Oberg (again). The Oberg filter could be fitted with a differential pressure switch to turn on a light when the filter needed to be cleaned.+
System 1 Filters – Oil filters – Fuel Filters – Oil Pumps – Remote Mounts – Block Adaptors
Oberg Filters - Main Show Room

I ran a System 1 on the avatar dune buggy.

 

[pappy]

Hmmm… What’s old is new again, heh?

I seem to recall our 1939 Farmall H tractor was also a cartridge filter.

 

[ntsqd]

Difference is that those old cartridge filters were in the by-pass line. What ever oil got by-passed back to the sump to control oil pressure was first run through those filters before draining into the oil sump. These are in the pressure supply.

I suspect in those days it wasn't felt to be safe for the engine to bring it's pressurized oil outside of the engine, and then what would happen if the filter got plugged? Pressurized oil filters, "Full Flow Filtration", was a big deal when it first appeared. As I recall, some of those cartridge oil filters used a toilet paper roll for the filter. Or that was the low-buck, farm method anyway.

 

[snobdds]

The 22re is by far the messiest engine I have to change the oil on...the filter drips all over the oil pressure sender and the plug puts the oil all over the front diff. I usually change the oil outside just because it's so messy.

 

[KLF]

Even with draining the filter with my SST, I always draped a plastic trash bag over the front axle. Helped a lot with cleanup.

Worst I've ever encountered was in a Ferrari 400i sedan. Two massive filters right on top of the engine, pointing straight down. Really stupid.

 

[ntsqd]

Ferrari has been doing that for years. A 250GT Lusso SWB from 1960:

yeah, a Fram on a Ferrari.....

 

[steffan]

yeah, those big filters on the top are brilliant. surprised they didn't put little saucers on the bottom to catch the outflow like the subarus have. those metal cartridge style filters will fit a 22re?

 

[PAToyota]

System 1 offers a reusable SS mesh oil filter, as does Oberg (again).

Oberg is the one I was remembering from the magazines.