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Q: if an auto Hundy gets towed & the owner failed to remove the drive shafts, what happens?
 
How much is it worth?

I'm the second owner of a 1999 100 which now has 128,000. 90,000 service done, timing belt, starter etc. No mechanical problems ever. We've owned since 25,000 miles and have run Mobil 1 since we've had it.
New brakes all around with Powerslot rotors on front. Bedded properly. Front axles greased with Slee's axle greasing tool. Bilstein shocks installed at 90,000. 18 inch LC wheels with Michelin Latitude tires. Wheels done in Shadow gray/Black Chrome like on e39 M5. Matches the black chrome emblems. Spare is 18 too.

I have 2 new Michelin LTX tires in garage and a spare 16 inch wheel and tire.

Blue with Tan interior. Never off-roaded, no rust. I wash all my cars and trucks throughout winter to get salt off. I have hot water piped to outdoor hoses. I'm a little nuts.

I don't need to sell it but it doesn't really serve any purpose for me as a third vehicle other than something to drive when it rains so I dont have to take my car out. I really need something that can tow like a Tundra so I dont have to tow with our 200. Trade in value is ridicules so I thought I'd try and get a feel here for what to list it for.

If anyone is interested PM me. I'm in Westchester, NY.
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I'm the second owner of a 1999 100 which now has 128,000. 90,000 service done, timing belt, starter etc. No mechanical problems ever. We've owned since 25,000 miles and have run Mobil 1 since we've had it.
New brakes all around with Powerslot rotors on front. Bedded properly. Front axles greased with Slee's axle greasing tool. Bilstein shocks installed at 90,000. 18 inch LC wheels with Michelin Latitude tires. Wheels done in Shadow gray/Black Chrome like on e39 M5. Matches the black chrome emblems. Spare is 18 too.

I have 2 new Michelin LTX tires in garage and a spare 16 inch wheel and tire.

Blue with Tan interior. Never off-roaded, no rust. I wash all my cars and trucks throughout winter to get salt off. I have hot water piped to outdoor hoses. I'm a little nuts.

I don't need to sell it but it doesn't really serve any purpose for me as a third vehicle other than something to drive when it rains so I dont have to take my car out. I really need something that can tow like a Tundra so I dont have to tow with our 200. Trade in value is ridicules so I thought I'd try and get a feel here for what to list it for.

If anyone is interested PM me. I'm in Westchester, NY.

Are you looking to trade for a Tundra?
 
I'm the second owner of a 1999 100 which now has 128,000. 90,000 service done, timing belt, starter etc. No mechanical problems ever. We've owned since 25,000 miles and have run Mobil 1 since we've had it.
New brakes all around with Powerslot rotors on front. Bedded properly. Front axles greased with Slee's axle greasing tool. Bilstein shocks installed at 90,000. 18 inch LC wheels with Michelin Latitude tires. Wheels done in Shadow gray/Black Chrome like on e39 M5. Matches the black chrome emblems. Spare is 18 too.

I have 2 new Michelin LTX tires in garage and a spare 16 inch wheel and tire.

Blue with Tan interior. Never off-roaded, no rust. I wash all my cars and trucks throughout winter to get salt off. I have hot water piped to outdoor hoses. I'm a little nuts.

I don't need to sell it but it doesn't really serve any purpose for me as a third vehicle other than something to drive when it rains so I dont have to take my car out. I really need something that can tow like a Tundra so I dont have to tow with our 200. Trade in value is ridicules so I thought I'd try and get a feel here for what to list it for.

If anyone is interested PM me. I'm in Westchester, NY.

Were it mine, I'd list for $13K and wouldn't take less than 12. Market may be very different in NY, though...
 
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I'm the second owner of a 1999 100 which now has 128,000. 90,000 service done, timing belt, starter etc. No mechanical problems ever. We've owned since 25,000 miles and have run Mobil 1 since we've had it.
New brakes all around with Powerslot rotors on front. Bedded properly. Front axles greased with Slee's axle greasing tool. Bilstein shocks installed at 90,000. 18 inch LC wheels with Michelin Latitude tires. Wheels done in Shadow gray/Black Chrome like on e39 M5. Matches the black chrome emblems. Spare is 18 too.

I have 2 new Michelin LTX tires in garage and a spare 16 inch wheel and tire.

Blue with Tan interior. Never off-roaded, no rust. I wash all my cars and trucks throughout winter to get salt off. I have hot water piped to outdoor hoses. I'm a little nuts.

I don't need to sell it but it doesn't really serve any purpose for me as a third vehicle other than something to drive when it rains so I dont have to take my car out. I really need something that can tow like a Tundra so I dont have to tow with our 200. Trade in value is ridicules so I thought I'd try and get a feel here for what to list it for.

If anyone is interested PM me. I'm in Westchester, NY.

Why not tow with the 200? It's the best cruiser for towing yet! Unless you're towing a 5th wheel or something above 8500 lbs, I don't see why it's necessary to buy a tundra. The 100 looks in great shape.
 
cruiser vs lexus for 15000

For a budget of 15,000, model year 2000 or newer, what would you aim for... a lexus or the cruiser? Vehicle will be multi purpose, but will see sometime in the bush.
 
I'd get 1999 or 2002+. I wouldn't be interested in those years (00,01) due to trans issue.
 
Deals on LC's

For a budget of 15,000, model year 2000 or newer, what would you aim for... a lexus or the cruiser? Vehicle will be multi purpose, but will see sometime in the bush.

Lexus/Toyota, that has never even played into a buying decision for me, but I just picked up my fourth LC, and second 100 series. There are phenomenal deals to be had in the marketplace in general right now and especially on gas guzzling 4wd's like the LC. I purchased a one owner 2002 with 120k miles, black with tan interior, with good maintenance records, typical minor rust from being up north, and all for $10,750.00. For 15k, you should be able to at least get an 02 or newer model. Don't be afraid to travel and you can find a deal. Just hop on a plane, train, bus, or rent a car and save thousands. I rented a car and drove 400 miles and saved at least $6k, well worth the hotel stay, rental car and gas.
 
Were it mine, I'd list for $13K and wouldn't take less than 12. Market may be very different in NY, though...

I agree with Garth. Don't take less than 12k .
However, to the right buyer it might be worth more than 13k.

I would advertise it at 14 or 15 k (depending on how fast you want to sell it) and go from there.

If you sell it for 13k you might be leaving some money on the table.

To give you some idea I listed my 2000 with 140k for 13k and sold it that afternoon. I probably should have asked for more, but it all depends on the local market.

In summary 12-15 k is the right ballpark for your 1999 w 128 k miles.
Hope this helps.
 
Why not tow with the 200? It's the best cruiser for towing yet! Unless you're towing a 5th wheel or something above 8500 lbs, I don't see why it's necessary to buy a tundra. The 100 looks in great shape.

The 200 has not been the best tow vehicle. The rear springs are very soft and the rear end really squats when you attach a trailer or load the rear. Add to that the short wheel base and it's just not that great. The power is great but the suspension just isn't made to tow. What it really needs is some kind of level control in the rear because even with passengers it rides funny. Nose in the air. I shouldn't have to fix a $75,000 truck.

I have purchase the airbags for the rear but have not installed them yet. This is my wife's truck so and OME lift is out of the question.

I occasionally tow my 25 ft. Grady White. Its about 7500 lbs with trailer. 100 will tow it but it just doesn't have the power to maintain safe highway speeds and inclines.

BTW Since taking this picture I have adjusted the tongue weight and while its better it still sags.
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The dreaded tranny problem 00,01

Do they all suffer from this problem? I am looking real hard at a 01, for 10000 with all maintence done, with all records
 
I am looking for my cruiser on auto trader.com 500 mile radius of DC. One thing I am noticing is this. You can find all kinds of combinations of mileage,year, price and whether the owner has kept all service records. What order would you way those factors?
 
Early transmission failure is just the 2000 model year. Does it happen to all of them, absolutely not. Has it happen to a large percentage of 2000 owners who are members here on MUD, yes. It would be enough for me to steer away from a 2000.

As for what are the priorities in looking for your LC. I will describe what mine where.

1. Year - 98-99, 00-02, 03-05, etc these groups of year represent different options for things like GPS version, elocker or ATRAC, engine and transmission model, etc. Decide which group of years best meets your wants/needs and most importantly budget.

2. Location - To me after knowing which year I wanted the most important thing was location. Without a doubt I wanted a LC that lived it's entire life in the PNW. Why, rust! Cars from the midwest and east coast are going to have much larger rust issues. When you go to start doing maintenance and upgrades this will become a nightmare.

3. Price

4. Mileage - Nice to have a low mileage LC, but if well taken care of that is not the most important aspect as they will last a very long time.
 
Thank you very much for the reply. So you are saying that 01 is not known to have the tranny problem correct?)
My 1st choice is a 03 with 164000 miles loaded asking price is 15000. 2nd choice is a 01 with 150000 miles for 10000 . Not thrilled about the color of either of them but I prefer burgundy over white any day. Preference would be blue.
Can you up date the navigation software in these cars?
 
Correct, no reported transmission problems in the 2001.

Blue is a very rare color and will be hard to find.

Yes you can purchase an updated Toyota navigation DVD for around $160. You must get the correct model DVD for the generation of navigation in your LC.
 
The 200 has not been the best tow vehicle. The rear springs are very soft and the rear end really squats when you attach a trailer or load the rear. Add to that the short wheel base and it's just not that great. The power is great but the suspension just isn't made to tow. What it really needs is some kind of level control in the rear because even with passengers it rides funny. Nose in the air. I shouldn't have to fix a $75,000 truck.

I have purchase the airbags for the rear but have not installed them yet. This is my wife's truck so and OME lift is out of the question.

I occasionally tow my 25 ft. Grady White. Its about 7500 lbs with trailer. 100 will tow it but it just doesn't have the power to maintain safe highway speeds and inclines.

BTW Since taking this picture I have adjusted the tongue weight and while its better it still sags.


I agree 100% that you should not have to fix a $75,000 truck. On the other hand, you WILL have to fix a trailer that is not set-up correctly for your boat.

The boat is way too far forward on the trailer relative to the axle. While you are correct that the 'cruiser's shortish wheelbase is not ideal for towing heavy loads at high speeds, the problem here has to do with the way the trailer is set-up, not with the cruiser.

Stay safe and get somebody who knows what they're doing to adjust the trailer for your boat.
 
Early transmission failure is just the 2000 model year. Does it happen to all of them, absolutely not. Has it happen to a large percentage of 2000 owners who are members here on MUD, yes...

Let's be clear here--"large percentage" doesn't mean 50%. Or 20%. Or even 10%. It's a VERY small figure, but it seems it's greater than other year models that equate to nearly 0%. So in comparison to almost zilch in failure, yes, it's a "larger" percentage. But something I would worry about personally? No. I've inquired this exact same question to some of the most respected Cruiser heads (couple that post regularly here) and their responses were very similar--they just laughed and said "wheel it!"

This is the same case with 98-99 2-pinon diffs. Things just get "blown" out of proportion on the net. Take what you have here with a grain of salt. Truth is, if your rig has been well-maintained, it will serve you well. Chances are, stuff that will break would have broken no matter what year, day of the week it was made. So I'd just say find a very clean, well-maintained truck and you will be happy.
 
Let's be clear here--"large percentage" doesn't mean 50%. Or 20%. Or even 10%. It's a VERY small figure, but it seems it's greater than other year models that equate to nearly 0%. So in comparison to almost zilch in failure, yes, it's a "larger" percentage.

Read my post again...

"large percentage of 2000 owners who are members here on MUD"

I didn't say large percentage of all 2000 MY vehicles sold. I said large percentage of members here on MUD who own a 2000 MY vehicle. Big difference.

It's more than enough for me to pass over a 2000 unless it has more than 160k miles which means the early failure has more than likely occurred if it will.
 

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