Buying/Selling - what year, how much, etc. - ask for opinions here (2 Viewers)

[ShirazAddict]

The 04 with 40k for $30k is a fair price. I spent the better part of 6 months looking, and used a baseline of $1k=10k miles and/or $1k per year, though the depreciation on these really slow after about 8-10 years and/or 180k miles.

There is an 04 at an Indpendent dealer in IL on Autotrader or Cars for $24k, that they repped with 60k, but it really has 85k. They were going to let it go for $22.9k.

My methodology when searching was to pretty much ignore miles, and concentrate on what mattered most to me: color, side air bags (06 & 07, though LX had them earlier), and lastly options. I started at $20k, and looked both high & low. I was willing to purchase a well cared for 99-00 with 200k if I could find one for <$10k, but they just weren't out there.


I ended up with a 06 with just under 100k for $24.5k, as did another Mudder who bought one out of TX. Mine had the ARB bumper which was a plus. Unfortunately I may now need to give it up due to an unexpected financial crunch, just after pouring another $4k into her.

 

[Uffda]

I picked up my first Land Cruiser, a 2000, in El Paso last week and drove it back to Minnesota. It had the best Carfax I have ever seen -- every 15K and 30K service interval and frequent oil changes. One owner and sold by the original dealer who did all the maintenance. It had 98000 miles and I paid $13,800. The body and leather are immaculate and it seems perfect mechanically. The wood trim overlays are brittle and breaking off and the CD player doesn't work. So add about $600 for an overlay kit and replacement OEM radio plus cost for new tires to get her up to snuff.


In the 6 weeks or so of searching, most of the comparables found were listed in the northeast where I hear the rusting is even worse than in MN. Did see some really nice examples in California, but the 1500 mile trek to Texas was about all this old guy could handle. Most of the decent 99-01s I found in my price range had 30-60K more miles.

Things that usually knock value down IMO are multiple short term ownership, mods (bling or performance), lack of documentation, and a snow country history. Be aware that it is very common for sun country dealers to buy northern vehicles at auction to resell to those who don't do their due diligence.

 

[jemsec]

Finally found someone older than me, 61. Feel pretty good knowing there are others here. Land Cruisers are more fun than golf or fishing.

 

[Frozen Fire]

1998 TLC

Well divorce changes a lot of things, so im selling my 98 TLC. White w/gray interior. New timing belt, water pump, starter and windshield. Kenwood DVD payer with Sirius. BFG Radial all-terrain T/A's. 190k miles. Asking $9900 OBO.

 

[Frozen Fire]

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[iowamud]

Goodbye LC80...Hello LC100?

Well, my beloved HJZ80 got sold and left behind in Morocco, so I am now on the hunt stateside for another LC to take to my next post.

I've found a decent LC100 with about 100k miles. It's a 2002. Full tilt on options, which really doesn't interest me, but I'd like to know what my mechanical concerns should be at or around this mileage. Body is great, appears to run well, assuming oil guage is calibrated to run at 1/2 during normal idle, that looks good too.

Not a full service history but only two owners, the last one for most of it's life, and traded to a local Volvo dealer. Looks like timing was changed at 70k miles.

I'd be looking to get about 20k miles out of this without any major service. No service records. What kind of PM and targeted inspections should I be making? Is it worth doing a compression test, and what would spec be on this model?

Asking price is about $15,000, and it needs tires.

Also, looking for a good source on replacement dash trim. This unit has some issues with the burlwood trim pieces.

Jeff

 

[bamachem]

I'm putting my 2004 Galactic Gray UZJ on the market.

Nav, Gray Leather, Rear DVD.

Dealer Services:
New Fluids and Coolant at 60k
New Belts at 60k
New TB/Water Pump at 87k
New Antenna Mast
Michelin Tires
Oil/Filters and other minor stuff

Other Shop Work:
New CVs (both) at 75k
Repainted front Bumper (parking lot scrapes - no wrecks on Carfax)
Brake Pads
Lots of other general maintenance items.

Me: (purchased 6-mos ago with 94k miles)
New OEM 2006 Headlights and Trim with Aftermarket (OEM Style) Grille
4500k 55W HID kit
Repaired door speakers and sub foam surrounds for like-new sound quality
Removed Flares
Repacked Front Wheel Bearings at 100k
Deckplate Airbox Mod
Greased Driveshaft
Mobil 1 Extended Perf Oil with Oversized Filter

Currently has just under 102k on it.

Wife is going back to grad school, so we are looking at her cutting back on work, and therefore our expenses.

The thing that makes this one unique is the 2006 front end on a truck that has never been wrecked.

I have receipts from the PO for the service work and pics on 'mud from the front bearing repack.

I'm looking at about $23k or so. I think that's priced very fairly, considering a $1000 upgrade to the lights/grille and the service history. Am I in the ballpark?

 

[fangtl]

^^ I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way but IMO you're overpricing your 100LC by a good 2-3k. For reference, run a search on Autotrader and just check out your competition, there's a sweet looking 2004 on there with 75k, asking $21k. Most 100k+ 2003+ are asking under $20k.

 

[bamachem]

^^ I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way but IMO you're overpricing your 100LC by a good 2-3k. For reference, run a search on Autotrader and just check out your competition, there's a sweet looking 2004 on there with 75k, asking $21k. Most 100k+ 2003+ are asking under $20k.

No worries.

At 75k miles, you're staring at ~$2000 in services within 15k miles. Timing Belt and Water Pump with Cam/Crank Seals, Thermostat, Spark Plugs, Coolant, etc. Add in a Front Wheel Bearing repack and brake pads. At a dealer, you're looking at $2000. Not cheap, and all due around 90k miles.

At 100k miles and priced under $20k, you're looking at a truck that probably hasn't been maintained at a dealer with all services completed, so you have to add at least $1500 to those prices to get it up to date (TB/WP and bearing repack at a minimum).

The 2006+ headlights, trim, and grille is over $1000 in parts alone. It is a 2006 "clone" or "twin", if you will. Only difference is that this truck lacks the VVTi offered in 2006 since the 2004's got the A750 5-sp transmission. Have you priced a 2006 lately?

I *might" be a touch on the high side of 2004 in some markets, but it's actually based on KBB Private Party Value and not retail. It comes well-maintained with good tires and no worries or issues AND it looks like a $30k 2006 - just without the 40 extra hp from the VVTi that's also shackled to the crappy AHC suspension. Not a bad tradeoff considering the savings on the truck as well as the savings of not having to either repair the AHC and/or rip it out.

I think $21-22k is a "fair" price for a typical 2004 at 90k to 105k miles. Add about $1000 if it's been REGULARLY serviced at a dealer and receipts are provided for the work as proof. That's $22k to 23k for a good, baselined, and well-maintained UZJ. Then you have to look at what the headlight/grille upgrade might be "worth".

That's why I thought $23,500 is fair. Maybe not. I won't know until someone makes and offer I guess.

*edit*

Just cruised eBay and AutoTrader.

There are exactly FOUR 2004 Galactic Gray Land Cruisers for sale in the entire US listed on Autotrader. They are:
OH (Salt Roads), 126k miles, $23,500
NY (Salt Roads), 75k miles, $20,923
GA (Broken Front Wheel Stud), 112k miles, $19,900 (fresh TB)
WA (over 2000 miles from me), 150k miles, $23,500

There are exactly TWO 2006 Galactic Gray Land Cruisers for sale in the entire US listed on Autotrader. They are:
TN (Snow, occasional Salt), 98k miles, $30,950
MO (Salted Roads), 122k miles, $28,995

So, a southern vehicle that's never been off-road or driven on salted roads with up-to-date maintenance and upgraded facia isn't worth as much as a northern vehicle with 20k+ more miles?

If you split the difference and say the "upgraded" and maintained 2004 is worth comparable average values of a 2005 truck, then there are TWO for sale in the US for comparison.
TX, (Not sure about TB/WP/WB repack) 110k miles, $24,900
MD, (Salted Roads), 92k miles, $25,988

 

[G-Cat]

Well, my beloved HJZ80 got sold and left behind in Morocco, so I am now on the hunt stateside for another LC to take to my next post.

I've found a decent LC100 with about 100k miles. It's a 2002. Full tilt on options, which really doesn't interest me, but I'd like to know what my mechanical concerns should be at or around this mileage. Body is great, appears to run well, assuming oil guage is calibrated to run at 1/2 during normal idle, that looks good too.

Not a full service history but only two owners, the last one for most of it's life, and traded to a local Volvo dealer. Looks like timing was changed at 70k miles.

I'd be looking to get about 20k miles out of this without any major service. No service records. What kind of PM and targeted inspections should I be making? Is it worth doing a compression test, and what would spec be on this model?

Asking price is about $15,000, and it needs tires.

Also, looking for a good source on replacement dash trim. This unit has some issues with the burlwood trim pieces.

Jeff

Over the next 20K miles, the truck you describe should need nothing but tires, gas and a hand-full of oil changes. Unless you think it has been abused, a compression test would be a waste of money as these engines aren't even half used-up at 100K.

You can try cruiserparts.net for trim pieces.

 

[Outside1]

02 or 04 LC?

I'm trying to decide between a 02 LC with 100K and a 04 with 107K. The 02 is $17.5k and the 04 is $19.5K.

The 02 has all service records and recommended service performed. The vehicle has been babied. Should I be prepared to replace the CV and shocks soon?

The 04 has spotty records but a recent inspection by a toyota dealer. The issues were busted CV joints, shocks, and power steering flush. All items were repaired but using after market parts.

I'm new here and to LC's so I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks.

 

[bamachem]

The 04 has a much nicer 5-speed transmission. For $2k difference, it's a no-brainer to me to go for the 04.

 

[hoch]

I'm putting my 2004 Galactic Gray UZJ on the market.

Nav, Gray Leather, Rear DVD.

Dealer Services:
New Fluids and Coolant at 60k
New Belts at 60k
New TB/Water Pump at 87k
New Antenna Mast
Michelin Tires
Oil/Filters and other minor stuff

Other Shop Work:
New CVs (both) at 75k
Repainted front Bumper (parking lot scrapes - no wrecks on Carfax)
Brake Pads
Lots of other general maintenance items.

Me: (purchased 6-mos ago with 94k miles)
New OEM 2006 Headlights and Trim with Aftermarket (OEM Style) Grille
4500k 55W HID kit
Repaired door speakers and sub foam surrounds for like-new sound quality
Removed Flares
Repacked Front Wheel Bearings at 100k
Deckplate Airbox Mod
Greased Driveshaft
Mobil 1 Extended Perf Oil with Oversized Filter

Currently has just under 102k on it.

Wife is going back to grad school, so we are looking at her cutting back on work, and therefore our expenses.

The thing that makes this one unique is the 2006 front end on a truck that has never been wrecked.

I have receipts from the PO for the service work and pics on 'mud from the front bearing repack.

I'm looking at about $23k or so. I think that's priced very fairly, considering a $1000 upgrade to the lights/grille and the service history. Am I in the ballpark?

As your unofficial financial advisor, I think you need to just rent vehicles from here-on out. It'd be cheaper with less headaches.

 

[TDIguy]

thoughts on value

Selling a 2000 LC with 124k miles, bought it with around 95k from KY.

Good shape mechanically other than a leaking driver's side exhaust manifold that I think is responsible for throwing an O2 sensor CEL code. Cosmetically it is average, some panels have been painted by the last owner. No visible rust, a tiny around a drain hole in the tailgate. Interior leather is in good shape but it has some dime size rips on the door panels in a two spots. CD player doesn't work (radio is fine)

18" 2008 tundra wheels with tires that are 60% done. Front wheel bearings, rebuilt calipers all the way around and EBC pads, completely redone parking brake system, borla Y-pipe back exhaust, interstate battery all within the last year. Third seat, roof rack, wind deflector, running boards
Champagne Pearl/Tan

Not sure what to ask for, as it sits I was told by a dealer that they would buy it for $10k even if I don't buy from them.
I was thinking 11,500 as is and 13 after I put the manifold on and the CEL goes out if I put it on cars.com or autotrader...
what are your opinions?
Thanks

 

[BingoOnTheBall]

2006 near San Jose, Ca

Hi guys,
I'm not a regular poster but read quite a bit around here. I sold my 80 about a year ago and have been casually looking at 100's. Looking at 2003+ but probably limited to older than 2006 due to the rapid cost increase. I came across this 2006 near me, haven't been able to see it yet but it looks to be in nice shape. The dealer doesn't have much info but carfax shows it as a CA car, intermittent maintenance history reported. The timing belt and water pump were done at 77k with weeping reported near the water pump (I was able to look it up on the toyota maintenance website). Nothing else significant was reported either on carfax or the toyota page so I'm not sure about any of the other high ticket items, dealer has no records. I like the white, not crazy about AHC or Nav but I've gathered it is difficult to find a 2006 without these features. When they first got it they told me the asking price was $30,995, I asked before they had a price listed. It's gone up $2k since then, but I'm guessing mid 20's would be reasonable for this rig. Edmunds and KBB have wildly different values.

Curious what you guys think, any info is appreciated. Thanks!

Used 2006 Toyota Land Cruiser V8 For Sale in San Jose CA | Vin: JTEHT05J362095142

 

[bamachem]

As your unofficial financial advisor, I think you need to just rent vehicles from here-on out. It'd be cheaper with less headaches.

No kidding...

 

[Bismarck]

Not mine, but local and seems like a reasonable deal:

2003 Toyota Land Cruiser BASE 32042719 D 511

 

[Romer]

Not mine, but local and seems like a reasonable deal:

2003 Toyota Land Cruiser BASE 32042719 D 511

It's been sent to auction. Just went to look at it for my daughter and I was too late

 

[pcut]

Just bought an '06 LC w/ 93xxx miles from south Texas (no rust/salt) owned by the Toyota dealer family, all records, new Michelins, all highway miles ( isn't that what they all say?), needs the 90k service done for $24,250.00 plus $600.00 shipping.

 

[pcut]

The 04 with 40k for $30k is a fair price. I spent the better part of 6 months looking, and used a baseline of $1k=10k miles and/or $1k per year, though the depreciation on these really slow after about 8-10 years and/or 180k miles.

There is an 04 at an Indpendent dealer in IL on Autotrader or Cars for $24k, that they repped with 60k, but it really has 85k. They were going to let it go for $22.9k.

My methodology when searching was to pretty much ignore miles, and concentrate on what mattered most to me: color, side air bags (06 & 07, though LX had them earlier), and lastly options. I started at $20k, and looked both high & low. I was willing to purchase a well cared for 99-00 with 200k if I could find one for <$10k, but they just weren't out there.


I ended up with a 06 with just under 100k for $24.5k, as did another Mudder who bought one out of TX. Mine had the ARB bumper which was a plus. Unfortunately I may now need to give it up due to an unexpected financial crunch, just after pouring another $4k into her.

Bummer if you have to sell! In hindsight I wish I had bought the one you did instead of the one I have. Hope you can hang on to it. Still waiting on mine- are you still interested in the headrests?