Brake Hose Threads Too Long (3 Viewers)

[Sparkman86]

I picked up a set of hoses to fit these 10mm fittings but the male threaded ends bottom out before the shoulder makes contact with the T unions. Curious if anyone has an idea to salvage this before I order something else. It looks to me like these just won't work. The copper washer is not on in the photo, but even with it installed there is a gap. I thought about installing a spacer and second copper washer, but that just adds a place where a leak could occur. Trustworthy brakes seem pretty high on the importance list.

 

[cruisermatt]

yep, you probably got a hose intended for an inverted flare seal instead of a copper washer.
I have plenty of new OEM hoses in stock at very reasonable pricing if you want to replace it with the right stuff.

 

[Sparkman86]

yep, you probably got a hose intended for an inverted flare seal instead of a copper washer.
I have plenty of new OEM hoses in stock at very reasonable pricing if you want to replace it with the right stuff.

Pretty sure these are intended for a flare seal since they have a flared end. Is there a land cruiser that uses this setup? These were sold as FJ40 hoses.

I have a 2" spring lift plus taller shackles which is why I bought these longer hoses. That extra length seems excessive though when I put them on. Will OEM hoses accommodate the extra travel and height of the lift?

 

[cruisermatt]

Pretty sure these are intended for a flare seal since they have a flared end. Is there a land cruiser that uses this setup? These were sold as FJ40 hoses.

I have a 2" spring lift plus taller shackles which is why I bought these longer hoses. That extra length seems excessive though when I put them on. Will OEM hoses accommodate the extra travel and height of the lift?

well, what year is your FJ40? FJ40’s are not a monolith and have many changes year to year.

The front hose switched to inverted flare at the front axle union around 75 (I think? Don’t have my notes in front of my), and I think the rear axle hose union switched with 8/80 changes.

While your thought process is spot on? , I’ve found the stock hoses have plenty of length with the typical 2” lift, as most 40 owners these days who are not seriously offroading. If you are, it’s recommended to truly cycle your suspension front and rear and measure for brake lines like you would shock lengths and driveshaft lengths

 

[Sparkman86]

well, what year is your FJ40? FJ40’s are not a monolith and have many changes year to year.

The front hose switched to inverted flare at the front axle union around 75 (I think? Don’t have my notes in front of my), and I think the rear axle hose union switched with 8/80 changes.

While your thought process is spot on? , I’ve found the stock hoses have plenty of length with the typical 2” lift, as most 40 owners these days who are not seriously offroading. If you are, it’s recommended to truly cycle your suspension front and rear and measure for brake lines like you would shock lengths and driveshaft lengths

Ah, that makes sense then. Mine is a 9/69 build but I replaced the 9mm plumbing when installing a tandem master and the fittings are from a 71-72 truck. Not planning on heavy off-roading in this. Just light excursions to some remote fishing holes .

I just ordered some stainless steel brake hose brackets from your online shop a couple days ago. I'm assuming the OEM hoses you have will fit those?

 

[charliemeyer007]

Packaging mistakes happen, sometimes stuff get put in the wrong bin. Look at the end of that nice looking SS hose and the inside of that T fitting and see if they match up?

 

[cruisermatt]

Ah, that makes sense then. Mine is a 9/69 build but I replaced the 9mm plumbing when installing a tandem master and the fittings are from a 71-72 truck. Not planning on heavy off-roading in this. Just light excursions to some remote fishing holes .

I just ordered some stainless steel brake hose brackets from your online shop a couple days ago. I'm assuming the OEM hoses you have will fit those?

thanks for the order! And yes, my brackets will fit up perfectly with any OEM Toyota hoses.. to my knowledge I am the only one that makes the brackets in the correct 17mm hex size.

 

[Sparkman86]

Packaging mistakes happen, sometimes stuff get put in the wrong bin. Look at the end of that nice looking SS hose and the inside of that T fitting and see if they match up?

Wishful thinking but they don't look compatible.

 

[Sparkman86]

thanks for the order! And yes, my brackets will fit up perfectly with any OEM Toyota hoses.. to my knowledge I am the only one that makes the brackets in the correct 17mm hex size.

OK awesome. Let me reach out to the mud vendor and see what I can do about possibly swapping these hoses for the right ones. If not, what's the best way to order these hoses from you?

 

[cruisermatt]

OK awesome. Let me reach out to the mud vendor and see what I can do about possibly swapping these hoses for the right ones. If not, what's the best way to order these hoses from you?

PM me or email info@cruisermatts.com either is fine

 

[pb4ugo]

You can most likely file the end of that hose to remove the flare and the use a copper washer.

 

[ranchdawg]

I just had some made locally and I was told to cut the ends to the proper length.

 

[71-CRUISER]

I just cut the unthreaded part off the end and use a new crush washer.

 

[Sparkman86]

You can most likely file the end of that hose to remove the flare and the use a copper washer.

I just had some made locally and I was told to cut the ends to the proper length.

I just cut the unthreaded part off the end and use a new crush washer

I had this same thought but didn't want to test it on $100 worth of lines and ruin them. A hack saw and file would make quick work of this.

 

[ranchdawg]

I spent about the same at a hydraulic shop. Cutting the end off was their advice to me. They said they couldn’t source the exact fittings to make it plug and play.

 

[charliemeyer007]

Wow A hydraulic shop couldn't source the fitting - I doubt they looked very hard, one the other hand for a one off type job it wasn't likely worth their time.

 

[ranchdawg]

They are familiar with Toyotas for sure, I can’t answer for them on their parts sources. Here’s a pic of old and new.