Nice job - that looks slick! One other note: I ran the throttle cable above the turbo - I'm not sure if that's important?
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Dirty Koala
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Getting close to wrapping up this install...plus a ton of ‘while you’re in there’ items. Working on OBA line routing now. It’s certainly tight figuring out where to put the coalescing filter, but I think I found a spot on the air filter canister near the wastegate.
Tommysosa
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I got the same gauge and setup as you. I didn't think of putting the controller in the ash tray. Its a great place to keep it. I am still debating about where I am going to mount the display itself as my phone currently sits where you have put yours. I am debating about on the left hand side of the dash by the A pillar still not sure where though. Ill figure it out once it gets here from AUS.
I played with a lot of ideas. I have my phone in a ram mount on the a pillar, using a grab handle bolt to add a ram ball.
I tried a mount under that and realized i didn't like how cluttered it felt over there with the gauge and wasn't easy to glance at.
where i have it now i had to file away part of the hvac trim, but figure i could source another if i ever removed the gauge.
I couldn't find anywhere that made for as clean of an install. So far pretty dang happy with it, except for the slight reflection on the windshield at night. Going to try changing the light illumination night setting to see if that does it.
Tommysosa
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I saw your ram mount idea from the turbo gauge thread and really like that idea. I think I am going to use the A pillar mount. I don't love the idea of having it right there as so called "Tweaker bait" but I also don't love the idea of it being so low and out of sight. I know a lot of people are running it down low but I'm thinking that's not my ideal spot. I'll figure it out and most likely change it a few times until I can get it where I want it.
I will leave this here so this can still be more of the Turbo thread and leave the gauge talk over on the other thread. I'm pretty sure once I'm going 80 up a hill I wont care if the gauges are down low or on the A pillar or even somewhere else. I'm pretty excited to get some big boxes on my front porch and get this thing going.
Dirty Koala
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I have been chipping away at the turbo in between conference calls the past few days.
It’s a bit of a tight fit, but it’s cool that you can run dual batteries, a turbo, a York OBA system including coalescing filter and manifold all in the same engine bay.
Filter is mounted to the backside of the air canister with two 90 degree fittings allowing for good line routing.
Was able to keep the discharge line to the filter away from the Turbo.
The line that runs from the filter to the manifold drops down under the air canister inlet from the fender and back up underneath the manifold by the battery box.
- Extended the windshield washer wiring over to the driver side back corner.
- Pulled the OBA manifold apart, sealed up all connections and put back together.
- Dropped the AUX battery tray back in.
- Dropped the Air filter canister and OBA manifold in temporarily so I could determine OBA line routing.
- Pulled air filter canister and manifold to drill and mount Coalescing filter.
- Put together York suction and discharge lines and threw it all back together with a new OEM air filter.
It’s a bit of a tight fit, but it’s cool that you can run dual batteries, a turbo, a York OBA system including coalescing filter and manifold all in the same engine bay.
Filter is mounted to the backside of the air canister with two 90 degree fittings allowing for good line routing.
Was able to keep the discharge line to the filter away from the Turbo.
The line that runs from the filter to the manifold drops down under the air canister inlet from the fender and back up underneath the manifold by the battery box.
@ Dirty Koala what washer resevoir are you running?
Dirty Koala
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It’s one from Napa, It is smaller than I like, but fits.
I also have an FJ80 left fender washer bottle that I will eventually put in after I figure out a solution to relocate the charcoal canister.
NLXTACY
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Just an update from my last update post:
• J-pipes- These are all cut and bent and in various stages of welding. Due to the virus the pipe shop has a skeleton crew that is focused on COVID related contracts so my stuff has to wait til they are done with emergency COVID jobs
UPDATE: COVID jobs still priority but they are able to get non-COVID related jobs started. They have asked me to contact them on Friday morning for a more accurate update on my stuff.
• Nameplate- These get welded onto the J-pipe but totally not necessary to have a working turbo. But since I already had these in process I wanted them done. Issue was my usual shop closed their doors. Found a new shop 2000 miles away that had some free time to work these in and I jumped on it. They are done and in transit to the pipe shop for eventual welding
UPDATE: Pipeshop has these ready to go as soon as time slot opens up
• A/C bracket- these were also in production and were cut but not bent nor had the hardware been pressed in. This was with my usual shop which closed and moved to new shop. This is done and on its way to powder coat.
UPDATE: These came back to me from powder coat BUT the Pemnuts were NOT installed at all. I didn't catch that with the picture they sent. These were sent back to the new shop where they received them, pressed in the pemnuts and shipped out the finished units out to me today.
• Downpipes- these are 95% done but the last thing waiting is the lower V-band fitting. The shop that makes them has a long delay to supply until the lockdown is lifted. The pipe shop suggested a different manufacturer for the V-bands (Vibrant) but I am 100% against that because then it means there are major differences that would be out in production and it would make securing replacement parts a nightmare. Sorry, I'm not doing that to myself nor to an eventual customer with a mythical problem 5 years from now.
UPDATE: I'm still waiting on an update about this.
• Downpipe clamp bracket- these were also with my old shop. Moved to new shop and should be ready in two weeks.
UPDATE: These are done and on their way to me.
• Turbo and downpipe blankets- PTP got the orders from their local Austin city gov't to close so all orders all on hold for the time being. Of course I'm on that list.
UPDATE: I got an email from them today that they are back in production. Waiting to hear about timeline.
• Aluminum Intake Tubes- two of the three pieces are done but the third, they one with the vent tube requiring welding, is not done and won't be until things start up again.
UPDATE: Part of the Friday update.
• Denso spark plugs- these are just generally delayed coming from Japan. Everything I've needed coming from Japan has now been taking on average 3x as long
UPDATE: I have 38 spark plugs heading to me now. The remaining units are 3-4 weeks out.
• Oil hoses- I had planned to have these shipped to me for my 5/15 deadline. I should have ordered them earlier apparently. Although this shop is located in Los Angeles County, they were able to stay open no problem since they are considered essential. Unfortunately they have been 100% focused on emergency COVID projects since they make MANY hoses used for emergency vehicles and hospital maintenance. They have told me they will do what they can to help with warranty issues as needed but all of my orders have to wait until things slow down.
UPDATE: I've been told they should be able to start working on my hoses end of next week.
Anyway. Thats where things are right now.
• J-pipes- These are all cut and bent and in various stages of welding. Due to the virus the pipe shop has a skeleton crew that is focused on COVID related contracts so my stuff has to wait til they are done with emergency COVID jobs
UPDATE: COVID jobs still priority but they are able to get non-COVID related jobs started. They have asked me to contact them on Friday morning for a more accurate update on my stuff.
• Nameplate- These get welded onto the J-pipe but totally not necessary to have a working turbo. But since I already had these in process I wanted them done. Issue was my usual shop closed their doors. Found a new shop 2000 miles away that had some free time to work these in and I jumped on it. They are done and in transit to the pipe shop for eventual welding
UPDATE: Pipeshop has these ready to go as soon as time slot opens up
• A/C bracket- these were also in production and were cut but not bent nor had the hardware been pressed in. This was with my usual shop which closed and moved to new shop. This is done and on its way to powder coat.
UPDATE: These came back to me from powder coat BUT the Pemnuts were NOT installed at all. I didn't catch that with the picture they sent. These were sent back to the new shop where they received them, pressed in the pemnuts and shipped out the finished units out to me today.
• Downpipes- these are 95% done but the last thing waiting is the lower V-band fitting. The shop that makes them has a long delay to supply until the lockdown is lifted. The pipe shop suggested a different manufacturer for the V-bands (Vibrant) but I am 100% against that because then it means there are major differences that would be out in production and it would make securing replacement parts a nightmare. Sorry, I'm not doing that to myself nor to an eventual customer with a mythical problem 5 years from now.
UPDATE: I'm still waiting on an update about this.
• Downpipe clamp bracket- these were also with my old shop. Moved to new shop and should be ready in two weeks.
UPDATE: These are done and on their way to me.
• Turbo and downpipe blankets- PTP got the orders from their local Austin city gov't to close so all orders all on hold for the time being. Of course I'm on that list.
UPDATE: I got an email from them today that they are back in production. Waiting to hear about timeline.
• Aluminum Intake Tubes- two of the three pieces are done but the third, they one with the vent tube requiring welding, is not done and won't be until things start up again.
UPDATE: Part of the Friday update.
• Denso spark plugs- these are just generally delayed coming from Japan. Everything I've needed coming from Japan has now been taking on average 3x as long
UPDATE: I have 38 spark plugs heading to me now. The remaining units are 3-4 weeks out.
• Oil hoses- I had planned to have these shipped to me for my 5/15 deadline. I should have ordered them earlier apparently. Although this shop is located in Los Angeles County, they were able to stay open no problem since they are considered essential. Unfortunately they have been 100% focused on emergency COVID projects since they make MANY hoses used for emergency vehicles and hospital maintenance. They have told me they will do what they can to help with warranty issues as needed but all of my orders have to wait until things slow down.
UPDATE: I've been told they should be able to start working on my hoses end of next week.
Anyway. Thats where things are right now.
jjdeneen918
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Sounds like things are in motion, just at a slower timeline, but at least are moving.
Joey, is SEMA at a stand still, or are they in motion too?
Joey, is SEMA at a stand still, or are they in motion too?
NLXTACY
Wits' End
Currently at standstill.
Hey everyone, looks like there is a collection of people waiting for the turbo kit. Well I wanted to provide you with a little motivation and incentive to stay patient. The kit has transformed the truck and has changed the driving experience drastically. For what it’s worth, I have 4:88s on 35x12.5 at sea level and it is a hoooooot to drive. I know it’s a lot of cash to invest and that’s how you should look at it, an investment because it transforms these trucks into an absolute treat to drive and own! So I say, stay patient and stay safe! It’s so worth it. I have a few things to buckle down than I plan on getting some videos together for everyone to enjoy. Cheers,
Jack
Jack
Now, after installing the turbo, do you feel like the 4.88's were needed? What I'm getting at is this: Were the gears a band-aid or were they an appropriate adjustment made sweeter by the turbo? I ask because I have an armored '97 on 315's. Not sure if I should leave the gears alone and look to increase power or if I should regear to get the rpm range closer to stock and then upgrade from there. Any feedback is appreciated and nice rig!
I don't want to get too off topic of this thread so, I will be short. I should probably and will, in greater detail, update my own thread with my $0.02 here soon about all the things I have done to the rig over the past how many years. But here is the short of it, I feel like the general perception towards the impact of re-gearing is insufficient. I forced myself to re-gear (long story) but looking at it now, it was one of the best things I have done to date. Obviously the turbo makes the truck amazing but the 4:88 gears make the turbo make the truck that amazing. Like I said, ill go into more detail in my own thread to not monkey up this one but my advice is re-gear, than think about adding powaaaaaaaaa.......and do it!
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Damned it I need the pandemic to pass so I'm making money again and can afford to install my kit. I simply can't afford to finish the exhaust once the turbo is in.
Dirty Koala
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Here is a tip:
If you are running a downpipe blanket and don’t want to install/uninstall the pipe to figure out the bellhousing clamp positioning before installing the blanket, you can wire up the blanket first, get it installed, and then unwire the bottom few cleats to make enough room to move the band clamp around.
This is how off I was on my clamp at first
With the bottom 4 cleats unwired
Clamp realigned and tightened up
Blanket re-wired
If you are running a downpipe blanket and don’t want to install/uninstall the pipe to figure out the bellhousing clamp positioning before installing the blanket, you can wire up the blanket first, get it installed, and then unwire the bottom few cleats to make enough room to move the band clamp around.
This is how off I was on my clamp at first
With the bottom 4 cleats unwired
Clamp realigned and tightened up
Blanket re-wired
alia176
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I was noticing that my engine is twisting enough so that the impression of the throttle cable (which was on top of the turbo) was visible on the underhood insulation. So, I moved it under the turbo. Still, I'm seeing impression of the short hose between the turbo and TB on the hood insulation. I ordered a new driver side motor mount just to rule out a tired motor mount.
On another note, did 1200 miles tooling around SW UT last week and 300 miles of it was on dirt roads. The engine did real well, enabling me to climb and maintain hwy speeds all day long. Cruise control held the hills in AZ, NM and UT easily while the elevations ranged from 4,xxx ft to 10,xxx ft. The power button was never even pushed. I setup a Covic-19 movie theater in the wilds of UT for some Monty Python action
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I'm running 315s, 4.56 and a 3" lift. She can do 100 mph easily but I kept running out of straight section of hwys
. Between the whiteline swaybars and the Ironman 4x4 foam cell shocks, she was rock steady, all be in a little wind noisy inside the cab at those speeds.
On another note, did 1200 miles tooling around SW UT last week and 300 miles of it was on dirt roads. The engine did real well, enabling me to climb and maintain hwy speeds all day long. Cruise control held the hills in AZ, NM and UT easily while the elevations ranged from 4,xxx ft to 10,xxx ft. The power button was never even pushed. I setup a Covic-19 movie theater in the wilds of UT for some Monty Python action
.I'm running 315s, 4.56 and a 3" lift. She can do 100 mph easily but I kept running out of straight section of hwys
. Between the whiteline swaybars and the Ironman 4x4 foam cell shocks, she was rock steady, all be in a little wind noisy inside the cab at those speeds.
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I was noticing that my engine is twisting enough so that the impression of the throttle cable (which was on top of the turbo) was visible on the underhood insulation. So, I moved it under the turbo. Still, I'm seeing impression of the short hose between the turbo and TB on the hood insulation. I ordered a new driver side motor mount just to rule out a tired motor mount.
On another note, did 1200 miles tooling around SW UT last week and 300 miles of it was on dirt roads. The engine did real well, enabling me to climb and maintain hwy speeds all day long. Cruise control held the hills in AZ, NM and UT easily while the elevations ranged from 4,xxx ft to 10,xxx ft. The power button was never even pushed. I setup a Covic-19 movie theater in the wilds of UT for some Monty Python action
I'm running 315s, 4.56 and a 3" lift. She can do 100 mph easily but I kept running out of straight section of hwys
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Nice! Looks like you're seeing water temps around 202?
I was hitting 200-205 on slow fireroad climbs (not in 4lo) and on long highway climbs. Running a blue hub (unmodified) and an all oem new cooling system.
Debating modifying my blue hub + adding an electric LCP fan or just saying screw it and tossing a ron davis in.
alia176
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It was 202 deg when you're sub sonic
but mostly it sits in the upper 190s for this time of the year in the Southwest.The LCP fan won't do much for the coolant temps but if your A/C cooling is suspect, might be worth a shot. I have a 4runner fan, similar to the LCP fan in front of the condenser and not sure if it's helping or hindering the cooling of the radiator. I might remove it and try it out. I installed my electric fan for cooler A/C operation during slow speed crawling or just slow in town driving during the SW summer, many years ago.
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Nice. I've been pegged at 194* 99% of the time.It was 202 deg when you're sub sonic
With A/C on and giving it some boost i saw temps start to creep and want to avoid that if i'm on a long slow trail climb.
