BJ70 & BJ71

[David*BJ70]

Is the 70 are 12V and the 71 24V ?

and if the cruiser ID show JT3BJ71... I have to suppose it's a BJ71 ?

 

[mikeyT]

BJ71? That's cool... European origin, right?

That's why you have no rear seat, David. The first '71 in Europe (France, at least, I guess I'm not sure of the other countries) had no rear seat. Don't ask me why they did that; maybe they were intended as commercial vehicles.

 

[Stone]

Most diesels in Japan and Canada are 24V (and therefore meet NATO military specs), with the exception of Canadian BJ60s and 1985 BJ70s which are 12V. In Europe, all diesels before 1984 are 24V, and most B series after 1984 are 24V as well. Australian diesels are 12V.

Not sure if the info on the 60 series is exactly right, but the info on the 70 series is accurate as far as I know.

From this informative website:

http://www.bitwalla.com/cruisers/information/engines.html

Cheers.

Oh, and the BJ71 would be a 70 short wheelbase body and chassis with the 13BT engine. Not sure why it would have no side windows...maybe a cargo version? I've seen a Euro BJ71 locally and it looks exactly like the BJ70 but has the TURBO stickers on the side.

 

[mikeyT]

We all love the trivia here, so I'll wade in; for the sake of Cruiser geek-ship

I often get the French mags 4x4 Passion and 4x4 Magazine (pronounced kat-kat and not kat par kat) which each have a decent For Sale photo section. Looking at those ads, I'm pretty sure that the BJ71 were the first swb '70s in France, analagous to our own BJ70s, but w/o the rear seat. The BJ73s were the mwb turbos w/ 13B-T, analogous to the Japanese (and elsewhere?) BJ74s.

Anyone else have other insight into this? Des francais de France sur ce forum?

Cheers.

 

[Stone]

Pic of a BJ71:

Has rear seats and rear shoulder belts just like the NA BJ70s (although the Japanese versions probably would have the rear seat but not the belts as they are not required there...not sure), 13BT engine, body exact same as BJ70. Also available widely in Japan and the one I saw was from the Netherlands.

Pic of BJ73 (from same website):

Looks the same as my BJ74 but without the 13BT...so has the 3B. As far as I understand, the designations are as follows:
B - B series engines.
J - originated in Japan.
7 - series of body style.
70 - SWB, 3B, IDI.
71 - SWB, 13BT, TDI.
73 - MWB, 3B, IDI, FRP roof.
74 - MWB, 13BT, TDI, FRP roof.
75 - LWB, 3B, IDI.
May be others that I don't know of. These designations would be universal whether the vehicle is in Japan, Europe, or Australia. HTH.

 

[Landpimp]

no back seat and no side windows means its cheaper to reg(and insure) as its for comercial use. Might also have a barier between the front seat and cargo area.

 

[HZJ60 Guy]

Stoney's 74 is the way to go. The perfect Land Cruiser.



TB

 

[David*BJ70]

Thank for the information... but the cruiser I looking for (one of the two) have a rear seat and seat belt. It a 1987 70 cruiser whit 24V and a 3B engine (no turbo at all.. for sure). But... but, like I tell before, on the ID it's show : JT3BJ71...

So, all look like a BJ70 but why it's ...BJ71... on the ID ? That's is the question.

And oh yeah... the cruiser ONLY have 137 000 km. Can you imagine... a lite 137 000 km for 10 000$CAN... I think it's a great deal ?? Don't you ?

 

[David*BJ70]

Not sure if the info on the 60 series is exactly right, but the info on the 70 series is accurate as far as I know.

I have a 1983 BJ60 and it's a 12V Cruiser.

BTW, do ya think it's a good thing to sell my BJ60 to purchase a BJ70 ? I don't talk the room... I know that...

I talk about the driving agrement, the diesel consomation and the off road capacity... but maybe that could make a new tread question !

 

[crushers]

Pic of a BJ71:
As far as I understand, the designations are as follows:
B - B series engines.
J - originated in Japan.
7 - series of body style.
70 - SWB, 3B, IDI.
71 - SWB, 13BT, TDI.
73 - MWB, 3B, IDI, FRP roof.
74 - MWB, 13BT, TDI, FRP roof.
75 - LWB, 3B, IDI.
May be others that I don't know of. These designations would be universal whether the vehicle is in Japan, Europe, or Australia. HTH.

close Stony, except the J stands for Jeep, i know you boys will have a hard time admitting it but that IS the case...
cheers
Wayne

 

[lumpy70]

The late late late model 70 series which came to Canada (as in the last couple of months of Canadian production) were sold as the BJ70 but had the VIN# as BJ71...no turbo.

From what I know the differences were as slight as the differences between the 60 and the 62.

I know that it is virtually identical to any other BJ70, and if you never checked the VIN, you'd never know. Definitely no turbo though...I feel cheated.

Further:
ALL BJ60's in Canada were 12V
HJ's were 24V

1985 BJ70's ONLY were 12V
86 & 87 BJ70's (and 71's I guess) were 24V

Hope all that helps,
Craig.

 

[mikeyT]

Well, I'm learning some things today. Thanks everyone; you're geekier than I am!

Although, as I assimilate new info, my GQ (geek quotient) rises.

 

[folsom50]

no back seat and no side windows means its cheaper to reg(and insure) as its for comercial use. Might also have a barier between the front seat and cargo area.

That's basically right from what I know, in Denmark the tax to register a new vehicle is 100% of the vehicle value (yes that's 100%). The only way in DK to get around that tax rate is to license the vehicle for commercial use. Barn doors, no back seat and a barrier between the front and the back is what a saw for an unaltered cruiser.

 

[beanz2]

close Stony, except the J stands for Jeep, i know you boys will have a hard time admitting it but that IS the case...
cheers
Wayne

Wayne, you've been around too many Jeeps lately. Do you still remember your old sig line: "Have you laughed at a Jeep lately?" Aren't your Jeeps really Mitsubishi's anyway?

The J in the model number is Toyota's own designation for the Land Cruiser line, as much as A is for the rear wheel drive Celica/Supra, N is for the Hilux/4Runner line, etc.

The J in the 17 digit VIN does mean it is from Japan, to paraphrase Stone's comments

Dave

 

[crushers]

LOL!! i love a good laugh first thing in the morning...
to quote (page 10 mid way down second column) in the book:
the LAND CRUISER
-special issue of the 50th anniversary-
1951-2001

"At the time there were many Jeeps being driven in Japan, which had been brought in by the occupying forces, and the Jeep came to be the symbol of the 4X4. For this reason Toyota called its prototype the Toyota Jeep, and by combining a B-type engine with a Jeep model it was known as the BJ."

sorry gents, it is a Jeep. we ALL drive Jeeps, we just try hard to ignore it. as long as it has a J in the serial number it is a Jeep.
;^)
cheers
Wayne

 

[Landpimp]

same in the UK and Norway, and I think Germany. You see this in cars also( well wagons), just front seats, barrier and no side windows.

That's basically right from what I know, in Denmark the tax to register a new vehicle is 100% of the vehicle value (yes that's 100%). The only way in DK to get around that tax rate is to license the vehicle for commercial use. Barn doors, no back seat and a barrier between the front and the back is what a saw for an unaltered cruiser.

 

[Stone]

How about a BJ=Better Jeep? In Japan, from what I have been told, some Cruiser owners take out the rear seat and register their vehicles as a "camper" or "RV" in order to avoid the Shacken(sp?) inspection every year. Converting it to a "camper" reduces the inspection frequency (which is expensive) to once every two years. My BJ74 originally came from Japan with a nasty looking 70's minivan type bed in the back covered with wine coloured vinyl. Had to wait a while for the factory seats to come in the container.

 

[orthodoc]

BJ70 - designate engine is 3B and its produced to different country

BJ71- designate engine is only 13BT manual (no other engine for BJ71, no automatic version, only RHD)

And its only a JDM, if there is available BJ71 to other country it came fom Japan.

 

[jonb96150]

The late late late model 70 series which came to Canada (as in the last couple of months of Canadian production) were sold as the BJ70 but had the VIN# as BJ71...no turbo.

From what I know the differences were as slight as the differences between the 60 and the 62.

I know that it is virtually identical to any other BJ70, and if you never checked the VIN, you'd never know. Definitely no turbo though...I feel cheated.

Further:
ALL BJ60's in Canada were 12V
HJ's were 24V

1985 BJ70's ONLY were 12V
86 & 87 BJ70's (and 71's I guess) were 24V

Hope all that helps,
Craig.

Funny how old this thread is! The above quote perfectly describes my 1987 CDM with vin JT3BJ71xxxxxxxxxx. I don't call it a BJ71 cuz it just confuses people, including myself. It really is a 70 but for some reason Toyota put 71 in the vin.

 

[crushers]

ummm, Canadian Cruisers had numbers added to the vin to meet the digit# requirement around 1985/86...
just to clear some of this up...