Both of my front calipers need to be replaced, wanted to see if someone finally came up with a Big Brake Kit that was worth it. I have the 17" RW/KO2 combo that really makes the brakes scream under aggressive high speed driving. I come from the AMG world of super brakes and always wished my Cruiser had much better stopping power. I can be more aggressive if I could stop on a dime. My brakes usually smell when I come home for the evening even the ceramic akebono pads (not as much as TRD). Chicago bumper to bumper traffic can be real torture to brakes.
Big Front Brake Kit?
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Nevermind after more searching found this thread:
DIY Tundra Brakes (BBK) by Teckis300
Will attempt this if there is no other better option. Thanks to @TeCKis300 for the full write up. I had same problem with 33s making the brakes scream under pressure.
DIY Tundra Brakes (BBK) by Teckis300
Will attempt this if there is no other better option. Thanks to @TeCKis300 for the full write up. I had same problem with 33s making the brakes scream under pressure.
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There's high end Brembo BBKs out there for the 200-series, with I'm sure prices to match.
The Tundra/Sequoia retrofits are probably some of the best value and opportunities to be had in BBK upgrades for the pre-2016 200-series. Frankly surprised I don't see more people upgrading to them, especially with 34"+ tires or for heavy overland builds. I've got ~6k miles on my setup, and couldn't ask for a better. It's returned brake effort and stopping power back to stock with my 35s. Enough that I can confidently tow 8k worth or trailer, or combined 15k worth of rig on 35s. Solid enough of a setup that I'll let my wife drive the car on occasion (when I steal her car). And couldn't ask for easier to source parts when it comes to maintenance time. I've had Brembo BBKs on previous cars and parts aren't as easy to come by.
There is also the option to retrofit the whole front end suspension from a 2016+ 200-series, for what effectively is the same braking capacities.
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All of them are for 18" wheels or larger. I have gotten attached to my 17" Rock Warriors. Your write up seems to be the perfect solution. I usually do brake upgrades when I have finished off a set. This is perfect time for me as both my front calipers are shot, plus rotors/pads. I imagine the calipers have a life to them ~250k. I do wash my car daily in one of those touchless carwashes not sure if that sped the process up. Your write up seems pretty recent so I think it will catch on over the next few years as more calipers freeze up. Toyota really shouldn't have recommended 33s with the pre-2016 brakes in my opinion. The brakes were never happy being smashed at high speeds especially.
TN LX570
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I did this last weekend, as well as the tundra front swap. The brakes were immediately noticeable! I think they are my favorite part of all the upgrades, just chiming in to say I only wish I had done it sooner!
Im not sure what the internal spacing is on the RWs but i am running 17s without issue in my '17 LX. Its tight but it clears no problem.
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Yeah the tundra big brake kits usually want 20" wheels.
As the RWs were originally intended for the Tundra/Tundra calipers. And we know the platforms share similar key dimensions including wheel backspacing - using Tundra brakes with RWs on the 200-series should work fine. Baring some crazy unknown differences in the suspension upright which I doubt?
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here is one
There are a few out there but I am not familiar with them. I believe TRD made one as well for 20".
There are a few out there but I am not familiar with them. I believe TRD made one as well for 20".
Power brake recently released their six piston calipers and two piece rotors
Landcruiser 200 08-15 08-15 J200 TOY09F X6L 370x34mm 2-Piece discs
Landcruiser 200 15-on 15-on J200 TOY05F X6L 370x34mm 2-Piece discs
A cool $3600 as they only make a Stage 2 kit with the 2 piece rotors for 200 series.
Powerbrake-X-Line 4x4 Big Brake Stage-2 for 2008+ Landcruiser 200 Seri
Features: X-Line billet 6-piston off-road calipers. High-performance brake pads, pre-loaded into the calipers. 2-Piece 345-395x34mm 72-vane discs. Semi-float disc drive system allows for radial disc expansion and contraction. Curved directional cooling vanes. Billet caliper mounting brackets...
www.mainlineoverland.com
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nice, I wonder how much faster it stops the vehicle? I spent $300 on OE grade Tundra parts vs $3600. I am sure powerbrake rotors will be expensive to re-order. I usually love super high performance brakes and cryogenic freeze them in order to give them longer life. But I have had bad luck with cruiser brakes replacing them so regularly and prematurely that I don't trust them. I wish I knew how long Tundra brakes last with Akebono pads. I had good look with Akebono over TRD pads for longevity.
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Things I'd look for in a BBK:
Some attempt to balance braking force with the stock rears
Dust boots on the caliper pistons
A track record making braking components that instills confidence these parts will work when we need them to, and continue doing so.
Ability to order parts well into the future
Once upon a time we could get 2-piece rotors built to fit into the stock caliper as part of an uparmored 200-series project. To my knowledge these parts are now unobtanium. Which is fine, because we can just toss stock rotors back on.. but what if the calipers depended on it?
Some attempt to balance braking force with the stock rears
Dust boots on the caliper pistons
A track record making braking components that instills confidence these parts will work when we need them to, and continue doing so.
Ability to order parts well into the future
Once upon a time we could get 2-piece rotors built to fit into the stock caliper as part of an uparmored 200-series project. To my knowledge these parts are now unobtanium. Which is fine, because we can just toss stock rotors back on.. but what if the calipers depended on it?
What’s the benefit of 2 piece rotors?
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Potentially lots of benefits, though many of them apply more to something like a track car.
I reasoned that the primary one in the case of the rotors I mentioned for the 200 was simply a disk that worked better than stock under a heavy rig without requiring any caliper upgrades. Probably from better construction methods and maybe metallurgy of the disk than Toyota could justify for their money.
Gotcha. I will say it appears that the new OEM rotors on my wife’s 14LX that are 15k miles old appear to be slowly warping again. This is single driver (and baby) use in a suburb with a conservative driver. It speaks volumes to how poorly designed the stock system is.
My 20 Cruiser brakes feel far more substantial.
Seems to be Toyota can’t get brakes right the first time. The 4Th generation 4Runner was plagued with warped rotors and seized calipers. I fixed that by installing 5th Gen rotors which are nearly 1/2” thicker.
Is this front and rear? Can you tell a huge difference?
That’s the direction I’m going to go. Brakes are due to be replaced in 5-7k miles.
Do you like them? How many miles have you out on them?
