Bestop TrailMax II Front Seats / Fold & Tumble Rear Bench

[chuckost]

CCOT should be monitoring these posts if they were smart. I just deleted them from my bookmarks. When are these companies going to figure out customer service. After 30 years I crossed off SOR too. Make me feel stupid AND overcharge? Never again...

 

[fj40_73]

what's the deal with the passengers side seat slider holes being almost 2 inches more forward then the driver's side with these conversion brackets?

Any of you who have used this kit noticed that the passengers side will not slide back as far as the drivers side? (72-78)

I no longer have the gas tank under the passengers seat so I'm missing the point of this offset, I'm sure there is a reason.

Is there something that would interfere with the seat slider bolts, if you were to have the original gas tank in place, and the passengers side seat slider mount holes were equal to the driver's side?

Also why are the seat bracket holes on each side about 1/4" offset from the rear mount holes? That is, the left to right slider hole mounts for each seat, is not equal from the rear riser holes. Seems like since the rear mount points are a square point of the tub, that this would be the best place to set your dimensions from.

I'm sure the sliders would adjust/negate this by one click as they too are about 1/4" per click. ... but......
ya I'm kinda like that.......

 

[fj40_73]

This was kinda fun.
I ordered new 3 point shoulder seat belts for the front and back with this order. I'm glad they are all the same make.

I am mounting the seatbelt retractors to the roll bar, but was a bit concerned with the backs of them being exposed to the elements.. like mud, dirt rocks.

After a few revisions I finally got a good fit with the 5th cover. The plan is to now print them out in black and use some clear silicone to glue them in place before I bolt them on. Pretty snug fit as it is without any glue.

 

[Vae Victus]

Cool - you 3D printed them? Love it!


...via IH8MUD app

 

[fj40_73]

Cool - you 3D printed them? Love it!


...via IH8MUD app

Yes I did, along with the Transmission shifter boot adapter, but to not derail this tread, I'll start another on 3d printed parts for our fj40s... so the best way I know to keep this on track is to add some MO-FOken Pictures!!!

So I don't have the stock gas tank and I decided to make my own center and passenger side bracket, with extra short rear seat risers to make both the driver's side and passenger sides seat equal height.

This whole process took way longer then my original intentions because:
1. CCOT made me wait for them to make good on poor shipping practices.
2. I ended up taking out my roll cage to deal with some rust and weld in the new 3point seat mounts.
3. I freshened up the inside paint while I was at it.
4. Went with 3 point belts front and rear.
4. I have a one year old now.
5. Chopped down the rear seat Latch for a more snug fit. The original is for a Jeep and comes with a 1/4" slack I consider unsafe.
6. Redesigned the front adapters brackets and am cutting them out at my local Maker Place for my SD / Turf N Surf buds who want to do the same thing with out dealing with CCOT.

 

[AML]

Hello,
Those seats look nice. Are the gray seats the same material as the black? It looks like there is a matte texture to those that is nice and the black ones look smooth and kind of shiny. I have a question - will an average sized adult, say 5'10, or a woman say 5'5 fit in the back seat? It looks in the pics like there is a bit more room than I thought there would be in that back bench seat. Not necessarily for a long trip, just wondering in general about the leg room? Right now I have the stock seats facing inward and those are roomy, but I can't imagine that I would want somebody to be sideways if I were to hit something, or get rear ended.

 

[Vae Victus]

Yes I did, along with the Transmission shifter boot adapter, but to not derail this tread, I'll start another on 3d printed parts for our fj40s... so the best way I know to keep this on track is to add some MO-FOken Pictures!!!

So I don't have the stock gas tank and I decided to make my own center and passenger side bracket, with extra short rear seat risers to make both the driver's side and passenger sides seat equal height.

Nice looking work!

I'm no engineer, but the bracket pictured below looks like it would fail pretty quickly if you had a front end crash. Should you weld a small gusset in the front where it goes up from the floor to the seat adapter bracket? Just a thought.

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[MoCoNative]

Looks as strong as the pressed steel factory brackets. The rear mount of the seat and the solid bolting of the seat slider to that bracket creates a box with the floor. Forward momentum will put the most force on the rear mounts, that is why they are bigger stronger bolts than the original front mounts and bolts. The factory seats also had the seat belts attached to them, so they did double duty, new vehicles of course mount the belts to the floor in most cases and the seat mounts are lessor as they are only holding the seat down and not the occupant too.

 

[Hentra]

Has anyone ever used *eep flip forward seat risers for the front seats? I have fixed corbeau seats (don't recline) that are mounted to a custom roll cage and was considering this route so my 2 little uns can climb in the back easier.
I would cut the cage and customize a bracket to mount the risers to the floor.

 

[Fast Eddy]

was considering this route so my 2 little uns can climb in the back easier.

Buy the kiddos a receiver-mount step and let 'em climb in the back way.

 

[MyCruiserisaHogBeast]

Anyone tried to install these in a 79+? I'm sold on the backseat, looking into the fronts.

 

[rgrmike]

tag.

 

[JMZ400]

Anyone tried to install these in a 79+? I'm sold on the backseat, looking into the fronts.

 

[JMZ400]

Yes I'm bumping this thread because it's the most informative and incomplete thread regarding the Bestop Trailmax seats in FJ40's.

Question: Does mounting the front Bestops require the sliders AND an adapter braket as well? Specifically someone who's done them in a 79?

Just got the backseat today

 

[JMZ400]

Ok got some front brackets welded up for the front mounts. They do sit higher in the tub than if I used the brackets that came with the seat, but this doesn't require drilling holes in the tub. This isn't a solid mount, but rather a drilled bushing that still allows the seat to tumble forward as designed.
My next goal is to come up with a safe/secure solution to securing the rear of the seat and the center seat belt receiver's.

 

[JMZ400]

Well I completed the install of the front Trailmax Pro's today, and I'm pleased to announce that NO aftermarket brackets or sliders are required to install these in the 79-83. They bolt right in with the factory sliders! There are several threaded options on the bottom of the Trailmax Pros but none of them line up however, there are also non-threaded holes that line up just perfectly.

Thanks to a previous order from @ToyotaMatt I had some extra nice hardware that fit perfectly. I just used bolts a flange nuts. The only part that may require a longer bolt is the slider that has the adjustment lever. The lever is riveted to the rail and creates a high spot between the bottom of the seat and the rail.

$526 in all 3 seats.
Bestop Part Numbers:
Driver 39451-01 Black Crush color
Passenger Side 39450-01 Black Crush color
Rear-39439-15 Black Denim Vinyl with Fabric Insert (Black Denim is not dark black like to Black Crush)

 

[DuxTom]

Front seats are 39436, front seat sliders 51255, rear seat is 39440. All bestop numbers

I realize this post is 10 years old… but here we go anyway. That front seat p/n with the slider p/n bolted to OEM seat floor mounts, both driver and passenger? Or was there additional brackets/hardware needed? Thanks!

Tom

 

[DuxTom]

Front seats now in, will post up pics...... I purchased the reclining models and the only issue is the brackets needed to mount the stock seatbelts, they receptacle brackets do not fit too well. Otherwise appear to be good quality. Pics soon.

Hello… did you ever end up posting pics of this front seat combo? Curious how it all went together. Sorry for resurrecting a VERY old thread!! Thanks.

Tom

 

[Kschep]

One more time - let’s resurrect this thread once again.

My question is: what bracket options for the back rear bench seat are best? I’m not as worried about drilling my tub as others.
I want to find a good bracket that provides good seat height and stability obviously. But I want the trail max II rear bench and since I have a long range gas tank that’s been installed underneath the back tub (rearmost), I might need to do different holes anyways.

 

[WildernessRimFab]

Has anyone installed the CCOT Bestop bench seat in their rig and can confirm that it actually fits?

I have a Bestop fold & tumble bench in my 9/72 40, but it was installed by the PO approx 15 years ago.
Ill try and look on it for a part number, but it looks very similar to your photo above and it fits great.